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    Default Re: How good was Floyd?

    Hop and Roy ~tarnished~ their legacies.

    Floyd so far has not.

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    Default Re: How good was Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Hop and Roy ~tarnished~ their legacies.

    Floyd so far has not.
    Ah, I would say that is debatable and subjective. Hop losing to Kovalev by decision when he was in his 50s isn’t a bad look. Maybe the Smith fight at the end looked bad, but again, he was in his 50s. I would argue that Hop gained significant ground because he held on so long and accomplished so much at an advanced age. I feel that Ali, BHOP, Foreman, Holmes…etc., suffered very little to their legacies from the losses later in their career.

    To a degree I feel that Floyd’s late career hurts his legacy a little. He never lost, but fighting Connor McGregor, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz…etc., didn’t do him any favors. It’s usually the quality of competition of his later years that his detractors point to when criticizing him.

    Roy held on too long for sure and I think he was hurt the worst by his post prime career. He suffered some of the ugliest knockouts and you could see the huge decline as time went on. It is interesting to think about where Roy would be ranked historically had he retired after the first Tarver fight.

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    Default Re: How good was Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Hop and Roy ~tarnished~ their legacies.

    Floyd so far has not.
    Ah, I would say that is debatable and subjective. Hop losing to Kovalev by decision when he was in his 50s isn’t a bad look. Maybe the Smith fight at the end looked bad, but again, he was in his 50s. I would argue that Hop gained significant ground because he held on so long and accomplished so much at an advanced age. I feel that Ali, BHOP, Foreman, Holmes…etc., suffered very little to their legacies from the losses later in their career.

    To a degree I feel that Floyd’s late career hurts his legacy a little. He never lost, but fighting Connor McGregor, Andre Berto, Victor Ortiz…etc., didn’t do him any favors. It’s usually the quality of competition of his later years that his detractors point to when criticizing him.

    Roy held on too long for sure and I think he was hurt the worst by his post prime career. He suffered some of the ugliest knockouts and you could see the huge decline as time went on. It is interesting to think about where Roy would be ranked historically had he retired after the first Tarver fight.
    if roy retires after the john ruiz fight he would be looked at much differently
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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