Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
who would you have as a favourite over ggg from one fifty four to one sixty eight if they were fighting him next?

Uhh... depends at what weight they'd be fighting.

GGG is that rare bird that has fought at 160 his entire career. You move up a Jermell from 154 to 160, he might have a shot.

Point is, 160 right now can't be compared with 147 in terms of talent, for instance. So if there isn't a handful of guys at 160 I would favor over GGG at the moment, again it's not a glowing reflection on GGG, but a subpar division at the moment.

Hey I get it. You're trying to talk yourself into making this fight a real danger for Ginger... so that when he does win... you can call it a remarkable achievement.

You choose to ignore the half dozen factors I've already mentioned repeatedly as to why it should be a walk in the park for Ginger.

I won't keep on repeating them. All I can do for you is cut/paste.
for my question ggg would be fighting at one sixty for someone moving up or one sixty eight for fighters already fighting there. would you think jermell is fifty fifty against ggg? here are some guys at one sixty, jermall charlo, jaime munguia, erislandy lara, zhanibek alimkhanuly, demetrius andrade at one sixty or one sixty eight, carlos adames. any of them you'd favour over ggg next? i'm not trying to talk myself into anything, i think ggg is still a tough fight for anyone around the weight. if canelo wins i won't call it a remarkable achievement, you're making assumptions here. i'll call it a very good win over a unified champion & future hall of fame bound fighter. i'm not ignoring the factors you have mentioned & i have listed my own reasons why i disagree with them. you bring up ggg's age, i say he just unified two titles at age forty. you say the weight is more suited to canelo, i agree that canelo has had more time to adjust to the weight, however canelo has to come down from a weight higher than his previous fight & ggg has been pretty much a career middleweight, it is not unthinkable that ggg could have success at one sixty eight. you talk about vegas & canelo's judges, i say other fighter's have beaten canelo in vegas, one of our own members primo carnera i think scored the first two fights they way they are recorded, a draw & a win for canelo, i scored them one a piece, first to ggg, second to canelo. canelo lost his last fight by decision so i don't agree that a ko is the only way for ggg to win. i think it is you who is ignoring that ggg is a tough fight for anyone around the weight & won't be a walk in the park for canelo or anyone else around the weight