Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
You can base your opinions on fighters based on what you read about them, what they achieved and opinions from respected people about them. Nathaniel Fleischer, founder of Ring magazine, rated Jack Johnson and other old fighters highly and wrote articles illustrating how good they were.
So if Nathaniel Fleischer goes in balls deep about Jack Johnson, you would happily put him above Ali for example?
I thought the forum was for expressing OUR thoughts and opinions , not somebody else’s.
I’ll have to remember this when I’m “debating” with certain people , while they are just plain “mass debating” or something that sounds like that anyway. SMH.
Nat never saw the truly great things that Ali achieved and rated Johnson above Louis.

My point was that well respected writers chronicled the great things that the old fighters did and you can take those views on when you consider the whole history of the division. Benny Leonard is one of the great lightweights read up on him.