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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Gennady Golovkin has reflected on his first fight with Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as fight week starts to get underway ahead of their trilogy fight.

    Golovkin, 40, will face Canelo Alvarez, 32, for a third time in Las Vegas on September 17.

    The first fight between the pair at the T-Mobile Arena ended as a controversial draw in 2017 before the Mexican won the rematch via majority decision a year later.

    Golovkin will be back in action for the second time in five months after he regained the WBA (Super) middleweight title earlier this year with a win over Ryoto Murata.

    And he has spoken about his memories of their first fight as the hype starts to build ahead of their trilogy bout in a few days’ time.

    Reflecting on THAT Canelo punch in round nine, Golovkin told DAZN Boxing’s YouTube channel: “I remember that punch.

    “Well, I let it get through. You know, it wasn’t that… I don’t know what to call it, it wasn’t hard. It felt kind of like a slap or a sliding punch.

    “Well, it didn’t do too much.”

    Golovkin has frequently criticised the ‘terrible’ judging for robbing him of victory against Canelo all those years ago.

    It looked almost certain that Golovkin was going to be awarded the victory and retain his WBC, WBA and IBF middleweight titles in style as well as his undefeated record.

    However, the contest was controversially ruled a split draw with judge Adalaide Byrd bizarrely scoring it 118-110 in favour of Canelo.

    At the time the result was met with a chorus of boos from fans inside the T-Mobile Arena.

    And it seems Golovkin has never forgiven her for that decision as he insisted that ‘such actions should be punishable.’

    “I remember that feeling, when the judges announced the draw,” he continued.

    “I couldn’t believe that one of the judges could score it so badly in favour of my opponent.

    “How unfair can you be? How unfair to this sport? How can someone be so unbelievably inadequate and treat athletes in such a terrible way?

    “I think such actions should be punishable.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...90088c50578092
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    GENNADY GOLOVKIN was once so desperate to get a fight he was willing to put on a STONE to welcome all challengers.

    The terrifying Kazakh puncher made his professional debut in 2006 off the back of an Olympic silver winning amateur career.

    Golovkin went on a knockout rampage across Europe and South America before debuting Stateside in 2012.

    By that time, his reputation exceeded him due to his ferocious fists and finding willing challengers were few and far between.

    GGG was already champion at the 11st 6lb middleweight limit but he was ready to go as high as 12st 7lb at light-heavyweight just to find a match.

    Golovkin recalls to SunSport: “It was very hard, very difficult to get fights. We tried at 168, in 175 and people simply refused to fight.

    “I remember people like Canelo, they signed documents, paperwork and decided to strip belts in order not to fight me.

    “So no matter what people say right now, we still remember the time those people kept silent, wishing nobody would make them fight me.”

    Golovkin in 2016 got himself in a WBC mandatory position by winning their interim belt.

    It guaranteed himself a shot at Canelo Alvarez, until the Mexican superstar vacated the title a year after winning it against Miguel Cotto.

    Golovkin said: “He boxed Cotto and they signed an agreement, basically conceding to the fact that they were going to fight me, it was mandatory.

    “Then, they both refused.”

    Golovkin would have to wait another year to get Canelo in the ring, but he was left with further disappointment.

    The pair boxed to a contentious draw in 2017 although many felt GGG was robbed of a famous win.

    Their rematch a year later lived up to the billing but Canelo walked away with bragging rights in another razor thin decision.

    In the years since, he has established himself as boxing's top attraction, winning belts in four divisions.

    Meanwhile Golovkin, 40, has remained at middleweight, starved of a great trilogy with his arch rival.

    Canelo, 32, in 2021 became undisputed champion at super-middleweight but in May moved back up to light-heavy.

    Although it ended in defeat as Dmitry Bivol, 31, upset the odds to retain his WBA belt.

    It paved the way for Golovkin to finally get his crack at redemption, and will move up to 168lb to do so this weekend in Las Vegas live on DAZN.

    And GGG's trainer Johnathon Banks believes fans are in store for another treat only Canelo and GGG are capable of providing.

    Banks said: “I think the fight is going to be slightly different. I think Canelo is going to come in similar to the second fight, style-wise.

    “He’s going to come in hands up trying to walk him down and I think G is going to be right there, where he goes lateral or back, he’s going to be in position to punch.

    “I do think style-wise and temperament-wise and the way their workrate is, Triple G is one of the hardest fights for Canelo.

    “I think that’s why it took so long to get this fight back around for the third time, it was a really difficult fight

    “I think they both bring something out of each other, every fighter allows other fighters to do certain things.

    “But certain fighters make the other one excel a little bit more, and I think these two guys, it’s something about them that makes the other one a little bit more vicious.”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19787...anelo-alvarez/
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

    The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

    And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

    But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

    He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

    "But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

    "I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

    "I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

    "I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

    "I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

    Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

    But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

    His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

    The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

    And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

    Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

    "For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

    "But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

    "That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

    "I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

    "I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    GGG has to do something different. He can't let Clenelo tee-off to his hips and kidneys and body. This will drain him after 6 rounds of that. At 40, he will start to wither from that body blitz. So he better try to get those angles and lateral stuff going early before Clenelo starts smoking. If GGG's face is puffy and reddened badly by the end of Round 3, and worse yet if he cuts early, it's going to get really really tough for him. He's in a tough spot. 40, sheesh, that is old for middleweight, really old. His arms, sometimes he can't get them moving in time to outspeed Canelo, he sometimes does not have his hands in punching position and then gets beat to the punch. I don't know about this.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    I just rewatched their first fight and even in that fight where GGG pretty clearly won on points, he was not throwing enough punches. It seems like he has a bit of a hitch and he doesn't get the punches off fast enough, whereas canelo really gets them off. That was 4 years ago and so he will definitely be a tad slower which does not bode well. Does anyone else notice he kind of hesitates just for a microsecond? I think canelo is aware of this and every time this happens canelo will throw a two punch combination and move to the side.

    The double edged sword though is that when GGG throws more punches with the knowledge he needs a knockout most likely, then that will leave him more open.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    I just rewatched their first fight and even in that fight where GGG pretty clearly won on points, he was not throwing enough punches. It seems like he has a bit of a hitch and he doesn't get the punches off fast enough, whereas canelo really gets them off. That was 4 years ago and so he will definitely be a tad slower which does not bode well. Does anyone else notice he kind of hesitates just for a microsecond? I think canelo is aware of this and every time this happens canelo will throw a two punch combination and move to the side.

    The double edged sword though is that when GGG throws more punches with the knowledge he needs a knockout most likely, then that will leave him more open.
    The first fight was 5 years ago.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

    The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

    And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

    But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

    He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

    "But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

    "I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

    "I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

    "I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

    "I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

    Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

    But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

    His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

    The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

    And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

    Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

    "For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

    "But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

    "That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

    "I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

    "I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/
    Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
    So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Do we really care about this fight?

    Spence Vs Crawford is what we want.

    Canelo wins this on points anyway as he has the judges..unless GGG does a Bivol it’s not going his way!

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Who is on the Canelo vs Golovkin undercard?

    In the co-feature of the evening, Jesse Bam Rodriguez will defend his WBC super-flyweight title against Israel Gonzalez.

    Williams is also in an intriguing fight with British contender Kieron Conway.

    And veteran Gabe Rosado takes on Golovkin fighter Ali Akhmedov.

    Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez vs. Israel Gonzalez
    Ali Akhmedov vs. Gabriel Rosado
    Austin Williams vs. Kieron Conway
    Diego Pacheco vs. Enrique Collazo
    Marc Castro vs. Kevin Montiel Mendoza
    Aaron Aponte vs. Fernando Molina
    Anthony Herrera vs. Delvin McKinley

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19811...kin-undercard/
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

    The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

    And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

    But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

    He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

    "But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

    "I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

    "I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

    "I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

    "I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

    Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

    But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

    His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

    The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

    And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

    Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

    "For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

    "But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

    "That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

    "I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

    "I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/
    Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
    So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.
    that was the plan i was aware of. dmitry first then ggg. regarding what happens next for canelo let's wait & see. i heard canelo was going to have surgery so i don't know when he'll be back. dmitry has zurdo in november. i'd actually prefer canelo to face david b or artur next. david b to basically cleanout one sixty eight & artur as he's number one for me at one seventy five & before artur hits the got old talk if not already around
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Canelo has faced top opposition and it is starting to take its toll on him with cuts and injuries. He is getting paid very well but he does need to stay at the super middleweight limit if he realistically wants to have a long career.

    The top 2 light heavyweights should take on one another before they push to face Canelo.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    I took a few days to think about the fight and the main thing that I felt was, that is was very underwhelming from both fighters.

    I knew GGG would step on it (more) in later rounds because even at this age he is still able to go into an extra gear (dig deeper) then Canelo and Canelo just looked bad those last rounds.
    But GGG looked very old and I was surprised that right from the start he was reacting to every little faint from Canelo. I thought that would be his undoing but Canelo never took advantage of this.
    Also, Canelo couldn't close in on GGG at any time. One, two steps backward is enough to diffuse any attack from Canelo. He can't follow and just swings (and misses) wildly.

    I would consider myself a Canelo fan but I also believe I am objective and was not liking what I was seeing starting from the Saunders fight for a lot of reasons.
    He hardly moves his feet anymore, no combo's just every time (the same) power shots. Very limited punch selection and his stamina has just become horrible. He is really struggling to get through his fights now.
    And a hand injury is no excuse for lacking stamina. If at this point in his career his stamina is still this bad it will not improve anymore. I actually don't believe Canelo will last another 3-5 years in the sport. I honestly now believe any fighter with these three assets will beat him quite easily: excellent footwork, high output and good stamina.

    Two other points:
    Reynoso is not a good trainer if you see the pro- or better regression of Canelo. He works on what Canelo likes to do or on his strengths. He ignores and neglects the same weaknesses he's had for years, his footwork and his stamina.

    Canelo will never beat Bivol if not for a lucky punch that somehow this time will have an impact on him.
    If he really said what I read,
    I think I can beat him easy
    I won the first five or six rounds
    , sorry, he's seriously delusional.
    Bivol is faster, has a high output and he didn't even leave first gear the whole fight when Canelo was looking like McGregor vs Mayweather round 10.
    And on top of that, Bivol and his team analyzed Canelo to a TEE and they attacked him on all his weak points, from his stance, his balance, to him taking breaks between punching.
    If Canelo really goes through with a rematch he might get a beating that could damage his legacy, respect of his peers and longevity in the sport.
    Last edited by PerfectJab; 09-20-2022 at 06:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

    The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

    And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

    But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

    He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

    "But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

    "I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

    "I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

    "I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

    "I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

    Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

    But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

    His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

    The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

    And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

    Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

    "For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

    "But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

    "That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

    "I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

    "I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/
    Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
    So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.
    that was the plan i was aware of. dmitry first then ggg. regarding what happens next for canelo let's wait & see. i heard canelo was going to have surgery so i don't know when he'll be back. dmitry has zurdo in november. i'd actually prefer canelo to face david b or artur next. david b to basically cleanout one sixty eight & artur as he's number one for me at one seventy five & before artur hits the got old talk if not already around
    All the injury talk came up after the fight. Before the fight “the plan” was to fight Bivol. If that’s the plan, you gotta stick with it.
    That’s what you said when he fought the old fat guy at the weekend.
    As for fighting Beterbiev, who you believe is #1, what gives Canelo the right to fight the #1 , when he lost convincingly to “#2” ?
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

    Even the judges turned against him

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