Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin III 17/9/22

[Master]

CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

"But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

"I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

"I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

"I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

"I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

"For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

"But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

"That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

"I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

"I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/

[NoSavingByTheBell]

GGG has to do something different. He can't let Clenelo tee-off to his hips and kidneys and body. This will drain him after 6 rounds of that. At 40, he will start to wither from that body blitz. So he better try to get those angles and lateral stuff going early before Clenelo starts smoking. If GGG's face is puffy and reddened badly by the end of Round 3, and worse yet if he cuts early, it's going to get really really tough for him. He's in a tough spot. 40, sheesh, that is old for middleweight, really old. His arms, sometimes he can't get them moving in time to outspeed Canelo, he sometimes does not have his hands in punching position and then gets beat to the punch. I don't know about this.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I just rewatched their first fight and even in that fight where GGG pretty clearly won on points, he was not throwing enough punches. It seems like he has a bit of a hitch and he doesn't get the punches off fast enough, whereas canelo really gets them off. That was 4 years ago and so he will definitely be a tad slower which does not bode well. Does anyone else notice he kind of hesitates just for a microsecond? I think canelo is aware of this and every time this happens canelo will throw a two punch combination and move to the side.

The double edged sword though is that when GGG throws more punches with the knowledge he needs a knockout most likely, then that will leave him more open.

[Master]

I just rewatched their first fight and even in that fight where GGG pretty clearly won on points, he was not throwing enough punches. It seems like he has a bit of a hitch and he doesn't get the punches off fast enough, whereas canelo really gets them off. That was 4 years ago and so he will definitely be a tad slower which does not bode well. Does anyone else notice he kind of hesitates just for a microsecond? I think canelo is aware of this and every time this happens canelo will throw a two punch combination and move to the side.

The double edged sword though is that when GGG throws more punches with the knowledge he needs a knockout most likely, then that will leave him more open.

The first fight was 5 years ago.

[Primo Carnera]

CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

"But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

"I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

"I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

"I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

"I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

"For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

"But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

"That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

"I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

"I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/

Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.

[imp]

Do we really care about this fight?

Spence Vs Crawford is what we want.

Canelo wins this on points anyway as he has the judges..unless GGG does a Bivol it’s not going his way!

[Master]

Who is on the Canelo vs Golovkin undercard?

In the co-feature of the evening, Jesse Bam Rodriguez will defend his WBC super-flyweight title against Israel Gonzalez.

Williams is also in an intriguing fight with British contender Kieron Conway.

And veteran Gabe Rosado takes on Golovkin fighter Ali Akhmedov.

Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez vs. Israel Gonzalez
Ali Akhmedov vs. Gabriel Rosado
Austin Williams vs. Kieron Conway
Diego Pacheco vs. Enrique Collazo
Marc Castro vs. Kevin Montiel Mendoza
Aaron Aponte vs. Fernando Molina
Anthony Herrera vs. Delvin McKinley

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19811...kin-undercard/

[NoSavingByTheBell]

[NoSavingByTheBell]

[Master]

“I would love to have a fight in my home country of Kazakhstan,” Golovkin told the PA news agency. “You’ll see me in the ring (again), most likely I’ll continue.”

Alvarez has vowed to send Golovkin into retirement as the pair, former sparring partners once upon a time, have traded verbal barbs in the lead-up to their trilogy showdown.

“What he says, how he behaves just shows who he is in reality, not a boxer but as a person,” Golovkin said. “When you see and hear that, you want to turn your face away and ignore him.

You'll see me in the ring (again), most likely I'll continue

“He stops being interesting, instead of tuning in, you tune out. What I feel from his behaviour is just indifference. I am a reasonable person, I don’t have any toxicity in me, nothing affects me.”

While there is little sign of the animosity subsiding, Golovkin takes pride in his rivalry with Alvarez. Even though he is the underdog, this bout has been much anticipated for years.

“It’s an amazing achievement to have a trilogy, being 40 and having the biggest fight in boxing, currently,” Golovkin added.

“Trilogies are amazing. We see how they bring to light the best we have in boxing, that’s why boxing is so exciting and why fights like this go into history. People remember it for a very, very long time.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...910bcc17c535de

[TIC]

CANELO ALVAREZ is eyeing a Dmitry Bivol rematch after his trilogy fight with Gennady Golovkin.

The Mexican superstar renews his rivalry with Golovkin this weekend in Las Vegas.

And he does so off the back of a defeat to Bivol in May, when he failed in a WBA light-heavyweight title challenge.

But despite moving back down to defend his undisputed super-middleweight crown, Canelo is ready to bulk up again for revenge.

He told DAZN: "You take the risks, pick the best fights out there, you maybe lose one day.

"But I am happy to take these kind of fights because they make me feel good.

"I think my legacy is on the up with these kind of fights and I learn a lot.

"I don't feel ashamed of that, because I trust myself to be great. I'm going to continue to do it.

"I was in my prime when I lost to Bivol. Not in my weight class, but I think I can beat him easy. But things happen.

"I won the first five or six rounds but then I got tired, that's what happened, but he's not better than me."

Canelo, 32, won the WBO light-heavyweight title in 2019, knocking out Sergey Kovalev.

But he then moved back down to super-middleweight, winning all four belts in the space of a year.

His return to 175lb ended in a 12-round points loss to Bivol, 31, with Golovkin, 40, welcoming Canelo back at 168lb.

The pair first drew in 2017 before Canelo won the rematch a year later.

And after a lengthy wait, fans will finally get to see the bitter enemies share the ring once more after 24 epic rounds.

Canelo added: "I think we had a really good two fights. People want the three fights.

"For me in my mind, at the end of the second fight, that was the end of the fights with Golovkin. It's enough.

"But the people want to know who is the best. He always says I'm not a good champion, I'm embarrassing for my country, but when he is in front of me he doesn't say anything.

"That's why I'm mad. He's a good, difficult, strong fighter. One of the greatest of all time. Our styles are perfect for a good fight.

"I think I'm more mature, more strong, have good experience, and I'm in my prime. That is going to be the difference.

"I think it is going to be a good fight, but my goal is to end the fight before the 12 rounds. Nobody likes to lose, but losing is not an option for me."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19788...olovkin-fight/

Ok @TIC , you gave Canelo a pass for this fight because “it was always his plan” .
So now, “his plan” is to fight Bivol next. Let’s see if it happens, but if it doesn’t, I look forward to your thoughts.

that was the plan i was aware of. dmitry first then ggg. regarding what happens next for canelo let's wait & see. i heard canelo was going to have surgery so i don't know when he'll be back. dmitry has zurdo in november. i'd actually prefer canelo to face david b or artur next. david b to basically cleanout one sixty eight & artur as he's number one for me at one seventy five & before artur hits the got old talk if not already around

[Master]

Canelo has faced top opposition and it is starting to take its toll on him with cuts and injuries. He is getting paid very well but he does need to stay at the super middleweight limit if he realistically wants to have a long career.

The top 2 light heavyweights should take on one another before they push to face Canelo.

[PerfectJab]

I took a few days to think about the fight and the main thing that I felt was, that is was very underwhelming from both fighters.

I knew GGG would step on it (more) in later rounds because even at this age he is still able to go into an extra gear (dig deeper) then Canelo and Canelo just looked bad those last rounds.
But GGG looked very old and I was surprised that right from the start he was reacting to every little faint from Canelo. I thought that would be his undoing but Canelo never took advantage of this.
Also, Canelo couldn't close in on GGG at any time. One, two steps backward is enough to diffuse any attack from Canelo. He can't follow and just swings (and misses) wildly.

I would consider myself a Canelo fan but I also believe I am objective and was not liking what I was seeing starting from the Saunders fight for a lot of reasons.
He hardly moves his feet anymore, no combo's just every time (the same) power shots. Very limited punch selection and his stamina has just become horrible. He is really struggling to get through his fights now.
And a hand injury is no excuse for lacking stamina. If at this point in his career his stamina is still this bad it will not improve anymore. I actually don't believe Canelo will last another 3-5 years in the sport. I honestly now believe any fighter with these three assets will beat him quite easily: excellent footwork, high output and good stamina.

Two other points:
Reynoso is not a good trainer if you see the pro- or better regression of Canelo. He works on what Canelo likes to do or on his strengths. He ignores and neglects the same weaknesses he's had for years, his footwork and his stamina.

Canelo will never beat Bivol if not for a lucky punch that somehow this time will have an impact on him.
If he really said what I read,

I think I can beat him easy

I won the first five or six rounds

, sorry, he's seriously delusional.
Bivol is faster, has a high output and he didn't even leave first gear the whole fight when Canelo was looking like McGregor vs Mayweather round 10.
And on top of that, Bivol and his team analyzed Canelo to a TEE and they attacked him on all his weak points, from his stance, his balance, to him taking breaks between punching.
If Canelo really goes through with a rematch he might get a beating that could damage his legacy, respect of his peers and longevity in the sport.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I took a few days to think about the fight and the main thing that I felt was, that is was very underwhelming from both fighters.

I knew GGG would step on it (more) in later rounds because even at this age he is still able to go into an extra gear (dig deeper) then Canelo and Canelo just looked bad those last rounds.
But GGG looked very old and I was surprised that right from the start he was reacting to every little faint from Canelo. I thought that would be his undoing but Canelo never took advantage of this.
Also, Canelo couldn't close in on GGG at any time. One, two steps backward is enough to diffuse any attack from Canelo. He can't follow and just swings (and misses) wildly.

I would consider myself a Canelo fan but I also believe I am objective and was not liking what I was seeing starting from the Saunders fight for a lot of reasons.
He hardly moves his feet anymore, no combo's just every time (the same) power shots. Very limited punch selection and his stamina has just become horrible. He is really struggling to get through his fights now.
And a hand injury is no excuse for lacking stamina. If at this point in his career his stamina is still this bad it will not improve anymore. I actually don't believe Canelo will last another 3-5 years in the sport. I honestly now believe any fighter with these three assets will beat him quite easily: excellent footwork, high output and good stamina.

Two other points:
Reynoso is not a good trainer if you see the pro- or better regression of Canelo. He works on what Canelo likes to do or on his strengths. He ignores and neglects the same weaknesses he's had for years, his footwork and his stamina.

Canelo will never beat Bivol if not for a lucky punch that somehow this time will have an impact on him.
If he really said what I read,

I think I can beat him easy

I won the first five or six rounds

, sorry, he's seriously delusional.
Bivol is faster, has a high output and he didn't even leave first gear the whole fight when Canelo was looking like McGregor vs Mayweather round 10.
And on top of that, Bivol and his team analyzed Canelo to a TEE and they attacked him on all his weak points, from his stance, his balance, to him taking breaks between punching.
If Canelo really goes through with a rematch he might get a beating that could damage his legacy, respect of his peers and longevity in the sport.

Perfect post. I could not agree more with any of those points. I really thought like canelo did not look good at all although he still does have his explosive power. And you're right his punch selection seems like it has been reduced. And he does seem to be getting worse and worse with his stamina.

I also agree with Master that the wear and tear is starting to show on canelo. I say if he has one more grueling fight at light heavyweight that will be the end of his career even if he wins it. It seems like his last two fights something is really starting to show. And it isn't good

[TIC]

I took a few days to think about the fight and the main thing that I felt was, that is was very underwhelming from both fighters.

I knew GGG would step on it (more) in later rounds because even at this age he is still able to go into an extra gear (dig deeper) then Canelo and Canelo just looked bad those last rounds.
But GGG looked very old and I was surprised that right from the start he was reacting to every little faint from Canelo. I thought that would be his undoing but Canelo never took advantage of this.
Also, Canelo couldn't close in on GGG at any time. One, two steps backward is enough to diffuse any attack from Canelo. He can't follow and just swings (and misses) wildly.

I would consider myself a Canelo fan but I also believe I am objective and was not liking what I was seeing starting from the Saunders fight for a lot of reasons.
He hardly moves his feet anymore, no combo's just every time (the same) power shots. Very limited punch selection and his stamina has just become horrible. He is really struggling to get through his fights now.
And a hand injury is no excuse for lacking stamina. If at this point in his career his stamina is still this bad it will not improve anymore. I actually don't believe Canelo will last another 3-5 years in the sport. I honestly now believe any fighter with these three assets will beat him quite easily: excellent footwork, high output and good stamina.

Two other points:
Reynoso is not a good trainer if you see the pro- or better regression of Canelo. He works on what Canelo likes to do or on his strengths. He ignores and neglects the same weaknesses he's had for years, his footwork and his stamina.

Canelo will never beat Bivol if not for a lucky punch that somehow this time will have an impact on him.
If he really said what I read,

I think I can beat him easy

I won the first five or six rounds

, sorry, he's seriously delusional.
Bivol is faster, has a high output and he didn't even leave first gear the whole fight when Canelo was looking like McGregor vs Mayweather round 10.
And on top of that, Bivol and his team analyzed Canelo to a TEE and they attacked him on all his weak points, from his stance, his balance, to him taking breaks between punching.
If Canelo really goes through with a rematch he might get a beating that could damage his legacy, respect of his peers and longevity in the sport.

posting like a veteran already