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    Default Re: Fury Vs AJ - December 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Tyson Fury pts. I'm guessing he reverts back to his Klitschko fight form and makes an ugly mess out of the fight. Neither of them will want to get knocked out in this all-British showdown... so earnest exchanges will be hard to come by.
    And believe me... if there is a fighter out there capable of making a fight into an ugly spectacle, it's Fury.
    With respect this is so off the mark. At some point they will come out swinging. There is genuine beef here but Joshua will also know that his best chance is to capitalise on Fury's arrogance and not rely on outpointing someone who hangs his chin out like forgotten laundry at times.

    Fury's over estimates his own ability and it is puzzling how so many knowledgeable boxing fans are taken in by that. Styles make fights, and there is no denying his ability in negating Wlad in a technically great but aesthetically boring fight, but look at the contrast in the roller-coaster that was the Wlad / Joshua fight. Yes Fury is younger than Wlad was but also just as vulnerable to the kind of shots that troubled the big hugging Ukrainian.

    Joshua does not have the greatest chin but it is not the glass jaw people are claiming either. He is not going to get anywhere being cautious against a spoiler like Fury, so has to throw the dice and swing for the rafters at some point. Fury is no Usyk and Wilder's utter novice like fundamentals made Fury look so much better than he is. Even so Wilder still caught him.

    Can't wait.
    True it's off the mark, but Tyson overestimates his own ability? The guy is a fucking monster, granite chin, tough as nails, and proved he can SMOKE you the way he AXED Wilder in that 3rd fight. Monster power revealed right there, he knocked Wilder almost off his feet like Foreman lifted up Frazier. Nothing ANYWHERE showing any "overrating". He hangs his chin out cuz nobody can smoke 'im. Nothing puzzling about that, so if they are "knowledgeable boxing fans" as you admit, then maybe it's you who sees it askew.

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    Default Re: Fury Vs AJ - December 22

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Tyson Fury pts. I'm guessing he reverts back to his Klitschko fight form and makes an ugly mess out of the fight. Neither of them will want to get knocked out in this all-British showdown... so earnest exchanges will be hard to come by.
    And believe me... if there is a fighter out there capable of making a fight into an ugly spectacle, it's Fury.
    With respect this is so off the mark. At some point they will come out swinging. There is genuine beef here but Joshua will also know that his best chance is to capitalise on Fury's arrogance and not rely on outpointing someone who hangs his chin out like forgotten laundry at times.

    Fury's over estimates his own ability and it is puzzling how so many knowledgeable boxing fans are taken in by that. Styles make fights, and there is no denying his ability in negating Wlad in a technically great but aesthetically boring fight, but look at the contrast in the roller-coaster that was the Wlad / Joshua fight. Yes Fury is younger than Wlad was but also just as vulnerable to the kind of shots that troubled the big hugging Ukrainian.

    Joshua does not have the greatest chin but it is not the glass jaw people are claiming either. He is not going to get anywhere being cautious against a spoiler like Fury, so has to throw the dice and swing for the rafters at some point. Fury is no Usyk and Wilder's utter novice like fundamentals made Fury look so much better than he is. Even so Wilder still caught him.

    Can't wait.
    True it's off the mark, but Tyson overestimates his own ability? The guy is a fucking monster, granite chin, tough as nails, and proved he can SMOKE you the way he AXED Wilder in that 3rd fight. Monster power revealed right there, he knocked Wilder almost off his feet like Foreman lifted up Frazier. Nothing ANYWHERE showing any "overrating". He hangs his chin out cuz nobody can smoke 'im. Nothing puzzling about that, so if they are "knowledgeable boxing fans" as you admit, then maybe it's you who sees it askew.
    If someone as small as Cunnigham and as poor as Pajkic can put him on his arse, it shows that he does not have the granite chin he thinks he has. Part of it is the over rating of Widers power but even that put him down for an awful long ten count. Fury seriously thinks he is an all time great, if not the greatest, that is a serious over rating. He is not even the greatest in this generation. Don't forget we have watched him struggle against not great fighters from day one . McDermott hit him all night, he couldn't miss and should have been given the nod. Foreman would eat Fury alive and i think even Frazier would give him kittens. He really is not the monster he thinks he is. In 33 fights 9 of them have had to be by decision which puts his 23 KOs into perspective. Joshua has Ko'd 22 of the 24 he has beat and in a 27 fight pro run that is much closer to monster than Fury but no, Joshua is not a monster either. Tyson would have battered them both and Lewis would have done the same . They are not in the same league. Wilder has fought an awful lot of poor fighters but his KO rate is pretty monster.
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    Default Re: Fury Vs AJ - December 22

    Fury has great almost freakish powers of recovery. I will give you that. Getting up after Wilder poleaxed him inside 5 minutes let alone 10...ahem 11 seconds was almost Lazarus like. He has a good chin, nothing like as poor or g as someone like Price, (and much better stamina) who was as freakishly huge as Fury (check out some of his ko's) but I wouldn't call it granite. Joshua chin might not be as good but a lot of his problems seem to stem from lack of confidence when tagged which he seems to be getting on top of in one way, but struggling in others.

    It makes for a fascinating fight. Joshua has good enough fundamentals to get inside and hurt Fury and the finishing skills to drop the big man and if Fury gets back up should be able to stifle any urge to panic and not fold.
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    Default Re: Fury Vs AJ - December 22

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Fury has great almost freakish powers of recovery. I will give you that. Getting up after Wilder poleaxed him inside 5 minutes let alone 10...ahem 11 seconds was almost Lazarus like. He has a good chin, nothing like as poor or g as someone like Price, (and much better stamina) who was as freakishly huge as Fury (check out some of his ko's) but I wouldn't call it granite. Joshua chin might not be as good but a lot of his problems seem to stem from lack of confidence when tagged which he seems to be getting on top of in one way, but struggling in others.

    It makes for a fascinating fight. Joshua has good enough fundamentals to get inside and hurt Fury and the finishing skills to drop the big man and if Fury gets back up should be able to stifle any urge to panic and not fold.
    Excellent points and analyses

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