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I may we’ll have missed that @Master voted to leave whilst being a Labour voter , which in itself is a very rare mix.
But my point from the outset was that you blame the tories, whilst not acknowledging the public’s part in this for voting for something that they were advised by a high majority across the parties not to vote for.
And then I asked how would you have negotiated Brexit any differently, which you promptly chose to ignore.
The reason I asked that is because once the vote has happened to leave, it would be an impossible task for any government, whether Labour, Tory or Lib Dem, to get a fair exit agreement from the EU.

I think anyone could have done better, even the monster raving loony party. The same with Covid. Johnson's bunch of cronies were disasterous and thousands died neeedlessly and billions of pounds( ....yes fucking billions) went into the pockets of their chums. These tories are disaster capitalists. They literally gambled on our economy tanking so that they could profit from misery of a botched Brexit. No other government of any political persuasion would have ever done that.
Like I said before, I am no apologist for the Tories and I’m fully aware of some of the absolutely disgusting shit they’ve presided over.
But we’re talking about Brexit here.and I firmly believe that it was always going to be nigh on impossible to get a fair “divorce” from the EU for any party to attempt to get.
And because the public voted for it, they/we have to accept some of the blame.
All this started with Master blaming the Tories because they shouldn’t have had a referendum. But he voted to leave, so why worry?
If his beef is the way they’ve dealt with it, I merely ask what He, You or any other party could/should have done differently ON BREXIT. The pandemic is a whole nother story.