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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    i wasn't making a correlation between their health issues & the covid vaccines just stating one commonality between them. as i said the causes for their deteriorating health could be many. i will add that most of my closest friends & family are not covid vaccinated as you probably guessed & although i can only speak for myself, my observations of those closest around me is that their health is on par with what it was pre covid if not better. i myself very rarely get sick. & again i know people that have had covid vaccines & are still healthy or healthier now. i agree on holding off on speculation, like i said you & i will never really know the true cause, information will be provided & we can choose to believe & trust what we are told. let's hope you & i can continue with the civil discussions. i'm sure you have a lot of knowledge & my opinion is we can all learn something from each other, everyone has something to offer. yeh thanks for the nfl stuff, i wasn't sure where it was in the season & what importance the games meant. in my opinion it would seem fair to reschedule/ restart the game if possible?

    You're absolutely right... we can all learn from each other. And yes... everyone has something to offer.

    The NFL quandary is still going on. This is uncharted territory for everyone, and I've seen maybe half a dozen different opinions on what the league should do next. Rescheduling/ restarting the game would be ideal, as it would provide a true finish to the season, from which the team seedings and playoff positioning would then be derived. But at the same time, I've seen talking heads on TV mention the possibility that the teams involved (Bills and Bengals) might not have the "appetite" for that particular game. I'm telling you... it's one tough spot to be in. Had this occurred earlier in the season, it would've been a lot simpler. But this is practically the last week of the season, with playoff spots and seedings yet to be decided. All teams and players throughout the league are totally sympathetic with what's going on... but that could change if a team were to be ousted from the playoffs simply because the Bills-Bengals game wasn't finished.

    I've seen players carted off with severe concussions or broken legs before. But for the players to have seen firsthand the resuscitation of their teammate is something completely different. I've never seen a professional football game postponed in mid-game before, save for maybe a baseball game some years ago when an earthquake hit the area of the stadium and the game was immediately called for everyone's safety.

    Putting myself in players' shoes... I can't imagine all the conflicting thoughts going through their heads the next time they put on their shoulder pads and uniforms and get ready to play a game. Can't be easy.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    Finally, some uplifting news.


    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/05/s...day/index.html

    "Damar Hamlin’s first question after waking up was ‘did we win?’ doctor says, days after his cardiac arrest during NFL game"



    "Did we win?"

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    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.


    Wow!

    I'm sorry to hear you went through all that... but thankful that you came out ok.

    It's funny how we never think something like that is going to happen to us... and yet it does. That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects, even from what would seem to be an early age.

    The pills, yeah... you're likely on them for life. I imagine you're also going to see a cardiologist regularly for the rest of your life as well.

    A blocked artery is something that creeps up on you. Diet issues... hereditary factors... so many things that can have an effect on that. But the important thing is the problem was resolved, and stents nowadays also have a type of medication that inhibits further formation of the plaque that clogs up your arteries.

    But diet and exercise, my friend. Those are your key resolutions for the New Year.

    Take care of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.


    Wow!

    I'm sorry to hear you went through all that... but thankful that you came out ok.

    It's funny how we never think something like that is going to happen to us... and yet it does. That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects, even from what would seem to be an early age.

    The pills, yeah... you're likely on them for life. I imagine you're also going to see a cardiologist regularly for the rest of your life as well.

    A blocked artery is something that creeps up on you. Diet issues... hereditary factors... so many things that can have an effect on that. But the important thing is the problem was resolved, and stents nowadays also have a type of medication that inhibits further formation of the plaque that clogs up your arteries.

    But diet and exercise, my friend. Those are your key resolutions for the New Year.

    Take care of yourself.
    I have introduced more vegetables and salad into my diet. Drinking water regularly and exercise has always been part of my lifestyle.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
    Except in Masters case without 'the medical establishment' he wouldn't be here. Without medication suppressing symptoms, my wife would risk dying from epileptic convulsions every day instead of a few times a year. If you are able bodied it is fine to think you have it all sorted, but you are deluding yourself.

    You really do sound incredibly idiotic much of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
    Except in Masters case without 'the medical establishment' he wouldn't be here. Without medication suppressing symptoms, my wife would risk dying from epileptic convulsions every day instead of a few times a year. If you are able bodied it is fine to think you have it all sorted, but you are deluding yourself.

    You really do sound incredibly idiotic much of the time.
    who's to say that the chemicals that have been put into masters & your wife's body throughout their lives hasn't lead in some way to where their health is today? i'm not deluding myself, i just listen to what my body tells & shows me & make changes as necessary. not even a week into the new year & your already throwing the insults larry? can't you ever just be civil & just disagree & have a rational discussion you spergy spastic little parasite? did you miss the part where i said it was my opinion you retard? & from what you are saying my health sounds like it's lights years better than yours & your wife's & masters, so i think i good larry
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
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    When I say I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects... I'm focusing on tests and screening that is widely recommended by the medical community for people of certain ages and/or risk factors.

    Example: Many people today die of colon cancer. This is a completely preventable death, in most cases, with timely checkups and diagnoses. Prostate checkups are generally recommended for men over a certain age... OR... certain risk factors. Women with family history of breast cancer are encouraged to get regular mammograms and stuff like that.

    Blood tests are another area. Some people are predisposed for things like high blood sugar, cholesterol, etc. Some of it is hereditary risk factors. A lot of it admittedly has to do with lifestyle choices and discipline (or lack thereof). I see blood tests as I do oil analysis on an engine. You look for certain parameters, which can be predictive in nature when interpreted properly. Results from blood tests can steer a health professional to recommend the best course of action for a patient. Be it drugs... or be it natural medicine... or be it diet and exercise. Or all of the above.

    You mention that "many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health". I won't refute that, other than to say that you'll have bad doctors just like you'll have bad engineers, bad lawyers, bad teachers, etc. But you can't condemn an entire professional because of a few bad apples. Yes... a person's health is his/her own responsibility. As is the proper choosing of medical professionals to help them in the quest for good health.

    I believe a good word to use here is "balance." It takes a balanced approach and mentality to manage one's own health. Too much in any one direction leaves you open to a boatload of problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
    preach

    So as usual fear mongering frightened little TIC has fallen for anything that confirms his own bias and maked him feel clever rather than using any kind of critical thinking.


    For starters that photograph is fo the architect Allen Greenberg who is not an MD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
    preach

    This word salad nonsense hardly deserves a response but for fairness sake lets take it at face value.

    Who is Greenberg?


    Like serial bullshitters Alex Jones , surprise , surprise he runs a supplement company - https://vitaminretailer.com/resource...-formulas-inc/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    That's why I'm a firm believer in regular medical checkups in all aspects
    i don't agree with this personally, not trying to argue just my opinion. i haven't had a medical check up in near a decade. for me one's health is the responsibility of that individual. this last three years has shown me that many in the medical industry are not actually interested in people's health, rather than deal with the causes of an illness they will rather use medication to suppress symptoms rather than cure the cause of the illness, not fixing the problem & often leading to more issues. this is just my own personal opinion & i'm not saying i believe all in the medical industry are this way
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    Greenberg is the fear mongering fella behind Chelorex. Here he is - https://archive.is/KnP3m#selection-191.85-191.93


    He speaks at Tree of life ministries ...so yeah ..preach indeed https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=bA8lGQZjAh8

    And he believes that removing his metal fillings was not enought to cure his sudden illness and his formula ( the big Pharma corelation is hilarious) can remove all heavy metals from the body and cure anything from heart disease to autism.


    He was struck off for being not competent to practice medicine. Page 3 here - https://www.mbp.state.md.us/forms/winter_2001.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The reason why I was asking about heart attacks is because I had one in December. It was very scary and was thinking about the kids I would be leaving behind.

    I have no history of heart trouble so was surprised when it happened to me.

    I am OK now and recovering.

    The NHS staff were excellent, and I had a stent fitted as the artery was blocked. I am getting my fitness back.

    I was also diagnosed as having Covid at the same time. I thought I had a flu as I could not shake it off and it was far worse than a cold.

    I am now suddenly on 6 tablets a day when I did not take any. I will probably be on pills for the rest of my life. These are Aspirin and Statins. I had a small cut shaving and it would not stop bleeding for hours because the tablets thin the blood.
    i'm sorry to hear you went through that. glad to hear you are recovering. when you were ill & it was far worse than a cold, may i ask was that at a time after you had your vaccines & boosters? i'm sorry to hear you are now taking medication daily. may i ask did the doctors mention anything to you about blood cots? it sounds like you have made some changes to your diet & exercise. if i may offer a piece of advice, i'm not sure how much you know about nutrition but whole foods & nutrition could be something you might want to research, also have as much fun as you can, laugh as much as you can, enjoy every moment as much as you can with those you love, the body is not the only thing you need to take care off. like the body i believe the the mind can also work similar with what you put in affecting it's performance. i hope your health continues to improve
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    Master take care of yourself. Yes more veggies and water is good. Olive oil only, no seed oils like cottonseed/canola/soybean oils --- forget those. Eat your crucifers like brussel sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. Eat fish.

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