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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I love graphs.

    Amazing that as many as 11 percent of people polled said the government spends too much money on infrastructure.

    I'd love to hear their "reasoning."
    I was thinking when I read this there's no way even eighty nine percent of Americans (or any other country's population) know what infrastructure means so I looked up the actual poll and the question actually explains what infrastructure is. Amazing these days that ninety percent of Americans can agree on anything. I wonder what would happen to this number of conservative media went on an anti infrastructure jihad for a month or two.

    You've touched upon a very important point, and that is the definition of infrastructure itself.

    Republicans seem to favor the more narrow definition, which encompasses mostly what is known as "hard infrastructure" (roads, bridges, utilities, communication systems, etc).

    Democrats seem to want a more broad definition, including much of what is known as "soft infrastructure" (healthcare, law enforcement, education, etc).

    Me... I tend to lean toward the Republican view for two reasons.

    1. I'm of a technical background... so the word "infrastructure" means certain things to me.

    2. By limiting the scope of the term, I feel we're freer to discuss things like healthcare, law enforcement, and education separately.


    All are needed for a productive society... but that's just my personal taste.



    But yeah... I can fully imagine some people saying "Hell yeah. We spend way too much on infrastructure." Without having even a remote idea of what infrastructure actually means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I love graphs.

    Amazing that as many as 11 percent of people polled said the government spends too much money on infrastructure.

    I'd love to hear their "reasoning."
    I was thinking when I read this there's no way even eighty nine percent of Americans (or any other country's population) know what infrastructure means so I looked up the actual poll and the question actually explains what infrastructure is. Amazing these days that ninety percent of Americans can agree on anything. I wonder what would happen to this number of conservative media went on an anti infrastructure jihad for a month or two.

    You've touched upon a very important point, and that is the definition of infrastructure itself.

    Republicans seem to favor the more narrow definition, which encompasses mostly what is known as "hard infrastructure" (roads, bridges, utilities, communication systems, etc).

    Democrats seem to want a more broad definition, including much of what is known as "soft infrastructure" (healthcare, law enforcement, education, etc).

    Me... I tend to lean toward the Republican view for two reasons.

    1. I'm of a technical background... so the word "infrastructure" means certain things to me.

    2. By limiting the scope of the term, I feel we're freer to discuss things like healthcare, law enforcement, and education separately.


    All are needed for a productive society... but that's just my personal taste.



    But yeah... I can fully imagine some people saying "Hell yeah. We spend way too much on infrastructure." Without having even a remote idea of what infrastructure actually means.
    I think a lot of it was during the writing of the infrastructure bill various Democrats were trying to get money allocated for their pet issues so they were claiming that they were infrastructure:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...-spending-bill

    It's a shame they didn't manage to pass a bill like this back in the Obama years. It would have helped drag the economy out of the 2008 meltdown recession much faster and it would all exist now.

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    I had read about this but it's amazing to see the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I had read about this but it's amazing to see the pictures.
    So much for going paperless in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I had read about this but it's amazing to see the pictures.
    So much for going paperless in the future.
    You might think the answer to this problem would be to give this odd organization some more funding and modernize the place but you'd be completely wrong, it's better infact to give them less funding! Who would have thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I had read about this but it's amazing to see the pictures.
    So much for going paperless in the future.
    You might think the answer to this problem would be to give this odd organization some more funding and modernize the place but you'd be completely wrong, it's better infact to give them less funding! Who would have thought

    It's not like there's rampant tax evasion going on in America, almost all by top one percenters. The deputy head of the IRS estimates it's only about a trillion dollars a year. It's not like the country is running a trillion dollar deficit or anything.

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