Vasyl Lomachenko v Devin Haney

[Denilson3.0]

This is why you should watch fights with sound down.

Haney won the fight. And I have 2 bring race into it. Says something when the blk fighter in his own bkyard is getting booed b4, during n after the fight against a white guy who is not even American.

The dk riding and white ass kissin of Loma from Andre Ward n Tim Bradley n other commentator was incredible. The worship of the white fighter from the crowd. You’d think you was at a Klan rally.

A disgraceful spectacle anti black hatred. As I say watch the fight with sound down n you’ll c Haney won the fight.

[Primo Carnera]

This is why you should watch fights with sound down.

Haney won the fight. And I have 2 bring race into it. Says something when the blk fighter in his own bkyard is getting booed b4, during n after the fight against a white guy who is not even American.

The dk riding and white ass kissin of Loma from Andre Ward n Tim Bradley n other commentator was incredible. The worship of the white fighter from the crowd. You’d think you was at a Klan rally.

A disgraceful spectacle anti black hatred. As I say watch the fight with sound down n you’ll c Haney won the fight.

Perhaps we shouldn’t stop at putting the sound down. Perhaps we should turn off the contrast and brightness? That way we wouldn’t know if one guy is black and the other white. What do you think? Smfh.

[Kirkland Laing]

I just watched and I have to say it's a different experience watching a fight sober. I had Lomachenko winning but a lot of rounds were close. Having said that, the judge who gave Haney the tenth, oh dear. There's no way that three qualified people all give the loser the win without it being a done deal beforehand.

[TitoFan]

This is why you should watch fights with sound down.

Haney won the fight. And I have 2 bring race into it. Says something when the blk fighter in his own bkyard is getting booed b4, during n after the fight against a white guy who is not even American.

The dk riding and white ass kissin of Loma from Andre Ward n Tim Bradley n other commentator was incredible. The worship of the white fighter from the crowd. You’d think you was at a Klan rally.

A disgraceful spectacle anti black hatred. As I say watch the fight with sound down n you’ll c Haney won the fight.

Perhaps we shouldn’t stop at putting the sound down. Perhaps we should turn off the contrast and brightness? That way we wouldn’t know if one guy is black and the other white. What do you think? Smfh.

Fukking A!!

Perfect response.

[TitoFan]

We can all debate about Loma-Haney all day long. It was a close fight... it was a good fight... and it more than lived up to the hype. Most of us had Loma winning (I had it 7-5)... but it wasn't a landslide either way.

But what impresses me most about Loma is this...




Now, I wasn't a huge Loma fan before the fight. I am now. This guy was baited not once, but twice, by the interviewer after the fight. But Loma refused to take the bait. He answered in the classiest way possible... when everyone and their brother knew that Loma felt in his heart that he won the fight.

Once in his dressing room... he drops his guard and his emotions get the better of him. Clearly frustrated, at the feeling of having a victory taken away from him.



I'll go into my song and dance again.

Championship boxing matches are too important... too much rides on them... for them to be left in the hands of incompetent (and/or corrupt) judges. We complain and complain... but nothing gets done. Which is why boxing will continue losing fans on a daily basis. When oh when is someone in power going to take this issue seriously, and put some reforms or measures in place.

Other sports adapt and change as the need arises. Boxing just sits there... held hostage by corrupt officials and organizations... and doesn't do shit.

This needs to change.

[greynotsoold]

The point about the weigh ins is very true. It used to be- for years after the stupid rule change- you weighed in 24 hours early. For this fight, the 'official' weigh in was 4pm. They actually weighed in at 9am. So Haney was a middleweight when he defended his lightweight title. This also greatly helped Nakatani. How would haney do with Hagler? Monzon? The weight games have ruined boxing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/v8EvY8oEb4k?feature=share

[Big J]

That was high-level boxing
I had it a draw

[mikeeod]

This is why you should watch fights with sound down.

Haney won the fight. And I have 2 bring race into it. Says something when the blk fighter in his own bkyard is getting booed b4, during n after the fight against a white guy who is not even American.

The dk riding and white ass kissin of Loma from Andre Ward n Tim Bradley n other commentator was incredible. The worship of the white fighter from the crowd. You’d think you was at a Klan rally.

A disgraceful spectacle anti black hatred. As I say watch the fight with sound down n you’ll c Haney won the fight.

Interesting observation…. So if I understand you correctly, you feel that Andre Ward and Tim Bradly’s racism, along with the predominantly black crowd’s racist support of Loma swayed and influenced the perceptions of those watching the fight on TV. Is that correct or did I misunderstand?

[Primo Carnera]

Just watched the fight. On my own and while I didn’t turn the volume down , I tried to ignore it.
I’m gonna go against popular opinion and say I had Haney winning 7-5 . I’ll be honest, I can see how people gave Loma rounds , his movement is a thing of beauty. But I didn’t see this as some sort of robbery. For the major part , I felt Haney did the better work and controlled a lot of the rounds. For the record, I had :
Rounds 1 & 2 - Haney
Rounds 3 & 4 - Loma
Rounds 5,6 & 7 - Haney
Round 8 - Loma
Round 9 - Haney
Rounds 10 & 11 - Loma
Round 12 - Haney
I haven’t looked at the official scorecards, but I’ll look after I posted this.
Edit: just looked at the cards and mine was closest to Sutherland’s card. We differed on rounds 2 & 4 , but every other round was the same.

[Master]

Good post Primo.

Fair assessment, I would question round 2. If you have that to Loma then it would have been a draw. Close fight.

[Primo Carnera]

Good post Primo.

Fair assessment, I would question round 2. If you have that to Loma then it would have been a draw. Close fight.

very fair point . and it just goes to show that in this instance , the calls for "fix" and "Robbery" aren't realistic.
I feel bad for Loma, and he showed after the fight what a man he is and how gutted he was ! Because he genuinely believes he won the fight and there is nothing wrong with that.

[J_Undisputed]

I think when the rounds are close, people tend to start looking at the overall fight to see which fighter got the better of the other and who was probably to fold if the fight went 15.

Here's an interesting tidbit that broke yesterday from Malignaggi and a few other sources. Haney resigned with Top Rank 2 days before the fight. This was to be his last fight on his previous contract with top rank. Shades of Pacquiao/Bradley 1 coming to mind.

[Master]

I think when the rounds are close, people tend to start looking at the overall fight to see which fighter got the better of the other and who was probably to fold if the fight went 15.

Here's an interesting tidbit that broke yesterday from Malignaggi and a few other sources. Haney resigned with Top Rank 2 days before the fight. This was to be his last fight on his previous contract with top rank. Shades of Pacquiao/Bradley 1 coming to mind.

How so?

[TitoFan]

Just watched the fight. On my own and while I didn’t turn the volume down , I tried to ignore it.
I’m gonna go against popular opinion and say I had Haney winning 7-5 . I’ll be honest, I can see how people gave Loma rounds , his movement is a thing of beauty. But I didn’t see this as some sort of robbery. For the major part , I felt Haney did the better work and controlled a lot of the rounds. For the record, I had :
Rounds 1 & 2 - Haney
Rounds 3 & 4 - Loma
Rounds 5,6 & 7 - Haney
Round 8 - Loma
Round 9 - Haney
Rounds 10 & 11 - Loma
Round 12 - Haney
I haven’t looked at the official scorecards, but I’ll look after I posted this.
Edit: just looked at the cards and mine was closest to Sutherland’s card. We differed on rounds 2 & 4 , but every other round was the same.

I didn't have you originally on this scorecard... but added you late.
Interesting to see how some of us scored the fight.

[TitoFan]

Interesting tidbits from the Saddo scoring:


1. Loma would've won a SD: Master, Spicoli, TitoFan for Loma..... TIC, Primo for Haney

2. There were 3 unanimous rounds:

• 3rd (for Loma)
• 11th (for Loma)
• 12th (for Haney)

3. There were four 4-1 rounds:

• 1st (Primo for Haney, rest for Loma)
• 2nd (Spicoli for Loma, rest for Haney)
• 9th (Master for Loma, rest for Haney)
• 10th (Master for Haney, rest for Loma)

4. Halfway through the fight:

• Master, Spicoli had Loma ahead
• TIC, Primo had Haney ahead
• TitoFan had fight even