Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
F it though TIC if you want to get aggressive. You said David Benavides was clout chasing.

Clout chasing means “attempting to increase their own fame or influence by trying to associate—or engage in conflicts—with those more popular or famous than themselves.”

You said I was attacking a straw man by asking if David actually wanted the fight or if there was a reason to believe he didn’t actually want the fight. You exposed YOURSELF there, not me. You dodged a valid question. Suggesting he is trying to raise his profile means absolutely nothing, every boxer does that. So there would be no reason to say clout chasing about something everyone does. You used the term to try to hint that he doesn’t actually want the fight. Every person here can see that. And that’s why I asked the question. Which you dodged. It isn’t a straw man at all because straw man means “ is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion,”. In this case it clearly isn’t different. Everyone here recognizes why you said he was clout chasing.

The question becomes are you going to be an honorable person and acknowledge what you were doing or are you to lie when everyone here will know you are lying?
so clout chasing means attempting to increase their own fame or influence by trying to associate with those more popular yeh? team david b already had a fight signed & sent a contract to canelo. to me that is attempting to increase his own fame or influence by trying to associate with someone more popular, when he already has other plans. you created a strawman by asking me if i "have any evidence david doesn’t want the fight?" i never made that claim, show me where i made that claim. so if everyone does this like you state, then my statement that david b was clout chasing is true yeh? you are making an incorrect assumption that i was hinting at something. show me where i made the claim david b doesn't want the canelo fight, not just your assumption. it is a strawman because my topic of discussion was david b clout chasing "attempting to increase his own fame or influence trying to associate with someone more popular" not the strawman you created about david b not wanting the fight. the question now becomes can you provide a link to where i ever claimed david b didn't want the canelo fight? are you going to be an honourable person & acknowledge that you only assumed that's what i was hinting at & you can't provide a link of me making that claim or will you hide away for a few weeks because everyone here knows you are lying?