WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

[TitoFan]

Questions posed to Canelo as to why he won't fight Benavidez date back at least a year and a half. Since then, he got his ass beaten by Bivol... went back to 168 and beat an old and bloated middleweight in GGG... and went back to the British well for another predictable victim in John Ryder.

And the questions about "why not Benavidez" continue to come up. Understandably, Canelo must be pretty pissed off by now... and has literally run out of time and excuses as to why he doesn't fight him. I remember back when he used the "I don't fight Mexicans" excuse.

Canelo's insistence on a Bivol rematch is a smoke screen. He knows Bivol won't rematch him at 175. It's pointless... and really, it's the victor that calls the shots.

IMO, Canelo's scared shitless of a fight at 168 against a real and present danger. He's scared of getting his ass whipped again... but this time not at 175, but in his own division.

Casuals and groupies can call it what they want.

[TIC]

Questions posed to Canelo as to why he won't fight Benavidez date back at least a year and a half. Since then, he got his ass beaten by Bivol... went back to 168 and beat an old and bloated middleweight in GGG... and went back to the British well for another predictable victim in John Ryder.

And the questions about "why not Benavidez" continue to come up. Understandably, Canelo must be pretty pissed off by now... and has literally run out of time and excuses as to why he doesn't fight him. I remember back when he used the "I don't fight Mexicans" excuse.

Canelo's insistence on a Bivol rematch is a smoke screen. He knows Bivol won't rematch him at 175. It's pointless... and really, it's the victor that calls the shots.

IMO, Canelo's scared shitless of a fight at 168 against a real and present danger. He's scared of getting his ass whipped again... but this time not at 175, but in his own division.

Casuals and groupies can call it what they want.

do you see something wrong with losing to the second, possiblity best guy in a division above canelo? the plan was always dmitry first & then ggg. canelo then had surgery & took a homecoming fight against john who had won an eliminator, against a guy that demetrius pulled out against. david b isn't mexican. why is canelo's insistence of a dmitry rematch at one eventy five a smoke screen? why won't dmitry rematch himat one seventy five? it's not pointless to canelo & the victor doesn't always call the shots. master was on here saying dmitry would be giving away his main advantage & dmitry might have been forced to by canelo's team to secure the lucrative rematch & it's absolutely ridiculous, what next bivol will fight with one arm? canelo won't get any credit if he defeats dmitry at one sixty eight. there'll be claims that dmitry was drained & not at his natural weight. i doubt canelo is scared shitless of a fight at one sixty eight but i do agree dmitry is a real & present danger. i doubt canelo is scared of getting his ass whipped again, this time at one sixty eight, canelo just won't credit if he wins at that weight. if anything i agree with you that canelo would probably prefer easier, bigger fights & challenges than david b. i have been saying since july last year that that age & time in the sport has taken a toll on canelo. that saudi money against badou for a cruiserwight belt could be enticing. i'm not saying that's what i want, i'm just thinking from a business point of view & where canelo is at currently in his career

[boxericecreamfigpeas]

Haha, I hear you! I'm not sure why Canelo isn't taking on Benavidez, but I'm sure it's nothing he can't handle. Maybe he's just taking it one step at a time. Who knows. At the end of the day, he’s got this. #HandsInTheAir

[Big J]

Benavidez has his eye on a Munguia fight

[TIC]

canelo has supposedly signed a three fight deal with pbc. jermall is probably up first in september. let's hope david b is one of the three fights

[Master]

I assume this will be on DAZN and Canelo is still with Eddie. A fight with Charlo would be a cracker a few years ago.

[Master]

Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez has signed a promotional deal with Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) and will return to the ring in September.

The multiple weight world champion was signed to Eddie Hearn's Matchroom, but has opted for a change in promoters.

Alvarez comfortably beat Briton John Ryder in May and is being lined up to face WBC middleweight champion Jermall Charlo next.

The 32-year-old Mexican announced the news on his social media.

American fighter Charlo has not fought since June 2021, but is undefeated in 32 fights with 22 of those coming by knockout.

PBC is an American promotion that also promotes the likes of welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr and Gervonta Davis.

Alvarez last fought at middleweight in 2018 when he beat Gennady Golovkin to become the unified champion.

He currently has 59 wins, two losses and two draws on his record.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...8bb33812&ei=14

[Primo Carnera]

canelo has supposedly signed a three fight deal with pbc. jermall is probably up first in september. let's hope david b is one of the three fights

I very much doubt it! If both fighters wanted it , there is absolutely nothing stopping it happening in September. (Notice in the interest of impartiality I put “Both fighters”)

[TIC]

canelo has supposedly signed a three fight deal with pbc. jermall is probably up first in september. let's hope david b is one of the three fights

I very much doubt it! If both fighters wanted it , there is absolutely nothing stopping it happening in September. (Notice in the interest of impartiality I put “Both fighters”)

to be fair it is a three fight deal. from a business point of view they probably want to capitalize on their investments as much as possible. a fight with jermall probably sells well. then a david b fight should be big in may twenty four, leaving a third fight against maybe demetrius. everyone thinks september is going to be jermall but david b doesn't want the david m fight now, after his manager already said the fight was signed, so there is a slight possibility it could be david b in september

[Spicoli]

Presumptions. Silver spoons and silk shorts. Assumptions. Entitlement and more than anything people still throwing money at consensus ppv showcase fights. They're not betting on if the opponent will actually win, the bet on is do they even make the final bell. The fact of the matter is a year ago it was an unswept division at 168 with Benavidez claiming rooms and eating from the fridge as he pleased. Now in comes another legitimate championship adversary in Morrell thru the front door as Canelo fumbles on about 'please just keep the noise down while I sleep' and avoiding the man who just painted him over 12 rounds. In two different divisions. Tables turn quick in the "game". Tides shift and regardless of we the fans trying to prove otherwise week to week...fans are not dumb!

All I gleam from it is that Benavidez vs Morrell represent what the division is tired of waiting for and welcomes, the fuel injection of 168 legit top tier threats squaring up for the claim. Something Canelo has not been so eager to do. You can only bail so much water for a guy. So should Canelo wait for the dust to settle and pulverize a clown car Berlanga in the meantime or should he go full fatty for Badou Jack at cruiser it looks like he's willing to let it pass him by. No Benavidez, no Bivol, no Morrell?...just growing irrelevancy in Canelo I say.

[TitoFan]

All I'm saying is Canelo's playing games. Only difference is casuals and groupies swallow the bait... whereas non-casuals and non-groupies don't. It's been at least a year and a half since Benavidez's name has been thrust in Canelo's face. We can excuse his fights with Bivol and (cough) GGG all we want. Fact is Canelo's biding his time so he can retire without having to face Benavidez. Many boxing experts see Canelo losing to Benavidez at 168, as do I. Canelo's not even looking his way. Benavidez's team has done everything except to offer to fight for free. This fight should've been scheduled by now.

Instead, here we are talking about Benavidez vs Morrell. Which is fine. But there's plenty of time for that. Both are mid 20's. They're not going anywhere. Canelo's 32. All he has to do is stall a couple more years, while fighting a few more chumps... and he can ride off into the sunset claiming he never ducked Benavidez... which of course would be a ridiculous claim. To be clear... there's no bigger cheerleader for Benavidez vs Morrell than Canelo. That way he can go about his business while the clock keeps ticking. He fools no one except for his groupies.

Again. My OP question is WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

We all know the answer to that. Fear.

[TIC]

Benavidez's team has done everything except to offer to fight for free. This fight should've been scheduled by now.

Again. My OP question is WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

jose sr claimed that david b's pbc three fight contract was for fights with caleb plant, david morrell & demetrius andrade, with an option for jermall charlo. sampson lewkowicz denied that claim but said david b still had two fights with pbc after the caleb fight. now with the david morrell fight already signed it seems some of what jose sr was claiming was true. could it not be that david b might still have some contractual obligations?

[TitoFan]

UPDATE...


https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...t-fight/264549

"Canelo Alvarez Targeting Jermall Charlo, Badou Jack For Next Fight"




Ok, so Ginger finally gave up on trying to avenge the bitch-slapping he got from Bivol, and is supposedly moving on.

So... is he looking in his own division at the elephant in the room?

No. He's targeting a middleweight, where Ginger can rehydrate back to a 20-pound edge over his opponent (Ginger's specialty)... or an aging cruiserweight.

This shet just keeps getting better and better.

If I had ever been a Ginger fan... I would've turned in my Groupie ID card a looooonnnngggg time ago.

This guy's a ducking, marinating, diva-clause-making overblown clown.

He'll fight ANYBODY except the guy who will surely WHUP HIS ASS at 168.

I personally can't wait till he retires.

[TIC]

[B]UPDATE..."Canelo Alvarez Targeting Jermall Charlo, Badou Jack For Next Fight"


Ok, so Ginger finally gave up on trying to avenge the bitch-slapping he got from Bivol, and is supposedly moving on.

So... is he looking in his own division at the elephant in the room?

No. He's targeting a middleweight, where Ginger can rehydrate back to a 20-pound edge over his opponent (Ginger's specialty)... or an aging cruiserweight.

He'll fight ANYBODY except the guy who will surely WHUP HIS ASS at 168.

dmitry is the one who doesn't want the rematch with canelo at light heavy & is moving on, canelo gets no credit if he defeats dmitry at one sixty eight. david morrell is the elephant in the room at super middle in my opinion. i'll be disappointed if canelo fights jermall coming off two years of inactivity but at least he'll fight him, something ggg hasn't done yet. canelo also fought sergei & dmitry before artur, dmitry & sergei have fought each other. badou may be an aging cruiserweight but he's a three division champion & a probably future hall of famer & a win gives canelo a championship in his fifth division. i disagree that david b will surely whup canelo's ass at one sixty eight

[TitoFan]

[B]UPDATE..."Canelo Alvarez Targeting Jermall Charlo, Badou Jack For Next Fight"


Ok, so Ginger finally gave up on trying to avenge the bitch-slapping he got from Bivol, and is supposedly moving on.

So... is he looking in his own division at the elephant in the room?

No. He's targeting a middleweight, where Ginger can rehydrate back to a 20-pound edge over his opponent (Ginger's specialty)... or an aging cruiserweight.

He'll fight ANYBODY except the guy who will surely WHUP HIS ASS at 168.

dmitry is the one who doesn't want the rematch with canelo at light heavy & is moving on, canelo gets no credit if he defeats dmitry at one sixty eight.

The... victor... calls... the... shots. I actually applaud Bivol for standing his ground and not caving to the red-headed diva's demands. Ginger's the one who got bitch-slapped. He doesn't get to demand a rematch at the weight he was so thoroughly outclassed. Bivol's got bigger fish to fry.


david morrell is the elephant in the room at super middle in my opinion.

That's YOUR opinion. In my opinion, it's Benavidez that Ginger's scared of and avoiding. Nothing Ginger would like better than Benavidez and Morrell to fight each other and buy him (Ginger) some more time, so he can exit stage left.

i'll be disappointed if canelo fights jermall coming off two years of inactivity but at least he'll fight him, something ggg hasn't done yet.

Not talking about GGG. Talking about Ginger.

canelo also fought sergei & dmitry before artur, dmitry & sergei have fought each other. badou may be an aging cruiserweight but he's a three division champion & a probably future hall of famer & a win gives canelo a championship in his fifth division.

It's that "but..." that tells the story. "Yeah... I agree Badou is on the downhill side of his career... but..." That's how excuses are born.

i disagree that david b will surely whup canelo's ass at one sixty eight

It's always been odd to me how someone who doesn't believe in a lot of things (COVID, for example) can turn around and back boxers who aren't much more than a facade... instead of the true warriors that toil in relative obscurity and don't worry about protecting "0"'s or maintaining their Instagram accounts.

The Canelos and the Ryan Garcias of the world.

I would've pegged your tastes to be different.