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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    "He's not a natural 175" "Bivol was too big at his weight" "He was daring to be great out of his division" "It was the weight and size difference".

    Enter Badou Jack at 190 . The man has become a literal sleight of hand trick. Here's the actual bare fact...Canelo has never nor has he the will and desire to actually sweep clean "his division". I guess it peaked on Caleb Plant. This hopscotch division leaping is going to catch up, and I believe it already has. The man is on an exit plan tour. I really do think end of 2024 is a wrap.


    Hopscotch is exactly right. Except that Canelo is trying to land everywhere EXCEPT at 168, where he knows the boogeyman is waiting.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    "He's not a natural 175" "Bivol was too big at his weight" "He was daring to be great out of his division" "It was the weight and size difference".

    Enter Badou Jack at 190 . The man has become a literal sleight of hand trick. Here's the actual bare fact...Canelo has never nor has he the will and desire to actually sweep clean "his division". I guess it peaked on Caleb Plant. This hopscotch division leaping is going to catch up, and I believe it already has. The man is on an exit plan tour. I really do think end of 2024 is a wrap.


    Hopscotch is exactly right. Except that Canelo is trying to land everywhere EXCEPT at 168, where he knows the boogeyman is waiting.
    It's fairly clear as day but the passes and fandom will go on. My pet peeve has alwaaays been cleaning out your own house if you're constantly yapping about THE man and shot caller. And before you start leapfrogging divisions for *trinkets. He's just dusting off the initial gameplan he had when the Makabu chatter was going. That to me that is a content and idle fighter.
    Last edited by Spicoli; 06-14-2023 at 03:55 AM.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?




    1. Badou Jack is an aging cruiserweight. Ginger wants that cruiserweight trinket, and will fight a lame zebra to get it.

    2. A. Goulamirian is another suspected weak champion (WBA) at cruiser. Definitely to be targeted.

    3. GGG (a fourth fight... what the hell). Ginger is guaranteed a win here, and groupies will attempt to sell the fight as a real challenge.

    4. Berlanga. A real possibility. An overblown fighter with no chance. But one that offers the chance for another installment of the Puerto Rico-Mexico rivalry.

    5. Jermall Charlo. WBC 160 champ. Why the hell not? Dehydrate to 160... then come back 20 pounds heavier to annihilate the much lighter Charlo.



    Rules of the Game:

    Throw the dart to pick Ginger's next opponent.

    On the off chance it lands on Benavidez... fire the dart thrower and someone else gets another try.



    Strategy:

    Anything but Benavidez at 168. Trinket at 175 not possible at the moment... as the title holders are Bivol and Beterbiev... both of whom would rip Ginger a new a$$hole. So let's skip 175 and go for the weak champions at 200.



    Ginger's a ducking, cherry-picking clown.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Just wait you guys, Jason Quigley is going to beat berlanga then alvarez will fight Quigley on whacking day! Not sure if Alvarez will come out dressed as a leprechaun for the ring walk but i hope I would

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Throw the dart to pick Ginger's next opponent.

    1. Badou Jack is an aging cruiserweight. Ginger wants that cruiserweight trinket, and will fight a lame zebra to get it.

    2. A. Goulamirian is another suspected weak champion (WBA) at cruiser. Definitely to be targeted.

    3. GGG (a fourth fight... what the hell). Ginger is guaranteed a win here, and groupies will attempt to sell the fight as a real challenge.

    4. Berlanga. A real possibility. An overblown fighter with no chance. But one that offers the chance for another installment of the Puerto Rico-Mexico rivalry.

    5. Jermall Charlo. WBC 160 champ. Why the hell not? Dehydrate to 160... then come back 20 pounds heavier to annihilate the much lighter Charlo.

    Anything but Benavidez at 168. Trinket at 175 not possible at the moment... as the title holders are Bivol and Beterbiev... both of whom would rip Ginger a new a$$hole. So let's skip 175 and go for the weak champions at 200.
    badou is a current cruiserweight champion. a three division champion & probably a future hall of famer. i take it you haven't watched much of arsen? source for a fourth ggg fight or are you making stuff up again? edgar maybe as a farewell fight but won't be next. a jermall fight won't be at one sixty. david b already has a fight signed next. dmitry ducked the rematch with canelo at one seventy five. if badou & arsen are such weak champions why haven't artur or dmitry moved up to take their belts? if david b or david m talked about fighting for a cruiserweight belt it would be a different story
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.


    Yes... "Bivol... ducked...the... rematch... with... Canelo... at... 175."

    Reason why I say my piece and avoid long, drawn out, pointless arguments.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
    you'd have to ask team dmitry. neither of us know what was in the original contract. there was talk of a rematch clause. canelo has insisted he wants the rematch at one seventy five, canelo said same terms. dmitry declined so canelo has moved on
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
    you'd have to ask team dmitry. neither of us know what was in the original contract. there was talk of a rematch clause. canelo has insisted he wants the rematch at one seventy five, canelo said same terms. dmitry declined so canelo has moved on
    You cannot conclude Bivol ducked Canelo from that. Offering the rematch on the same conditions when Bivol took less and subsequently losing to Bivol surely is not being serious about the rematch.

    Bivol also said he would go down in weight to accommodate Canelo.

    That is not ducking.
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