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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

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    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
    you'd have to ask team dmitry. neither of us know what was in the original contract. there was talk of a rematch clause. canelo has insisted he wants the rematch at one seventy five, canelo said same terms. dmitry declined so canelo has moved on
    You cannot conclude Bivol ducked Canelo from that. Offering the rematch on the same conditions when Bivol took less and subsequently losing to Bivol surely is not being serious about the rematch.

    Bivol also said he would go down in weight to accommodate Canelo.

    That is not ducking.

    Bivol's not the one with something to prove. He whupped Canelo at 175, and now wants to show he can do it at 168. That's not ducking.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
    you'd have to ask team dmitry. neither of us know what was in the original contract. there was talk of a rematch clause. canelo has insisted he wants the rematch at one seventy five, canelo said same terms. dmitry declined so canelo has moved on
    You cannot conclude Bivol ducked Canelo from that. Offering the rematch on the same conditions when Bivol took less and subsequently losing to Bivol surely is not being serious about the rematch.

    Bivol also said he would go down in weight to accommodate Canelo.

    That is not ducking.

    Bivol's not the one with something to prove. He whupped Canelo at 175, and now wants to show he can do it at 168. That's not ducking.
    canelo wanted the chance to prove he can beat dmitry at one seventy five. canelo gets no credit if the rematch takes place at super middle. dmitry was supposedly offered the same terms as the first fight, which is said to be a career high payday for dmitry & where he won the first fight. dmitry turned down the offer
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
    you'd have to ask team dmitry. neither of us know what was in the original contract. there was talk of a rematch clause. canelo has insisted he wants the rematch at one seventy five, canelo said same terms. dmitry declined so canelo has moved on
    You cannot conclude Bivol ducked Canelo from that. Offering the rematch on the same conditions when Bivol took less and subsequently losing to Bivol surely is not being serious about the rematch.

    Bivol also said he would go down in weight to accommodate Canelo.

    That is not ducking.

    Bivol's not the one with something to prove. He whupped Canelo at 175, and now wants to show he can do it at 168. That's not ducking.
    canelo wanted the chance to prove he can beat dmitry at one seventy five. canelo gets no credit if the rematch takes place at super middle. dmitry was supposedly offered the same terms as the first fight, which is said to be a career high payday for dmitry & where he won the first fight. dmitry turned down the offer

    And why do you think Dmitry turned down the offer?

    (This oughta be good).

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

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    Why would Bivol duck the rematch with Canelo at one seventy five when he comprehensively beat him? He must have been deliberately low balled by Canelo.
    you'd have to ask team dmitry. neither of us know what was in the original contract. there was talk of a rematch clause. canelo has insisted he wants the rematch at one seventy five, canelo said same terms. dmitry declined so canelo has moved on
    You cannot conclude Bivol ducked Canelo from that. Offering the rematch on the same conditions when Bivol took less and subsequently losing to Bivol surely is not being serious about the rematch.

    Bivol also said he would go down in weight to accommodate Canelo.

    That is not ducking.

    Bivol's not the one with something to prove. He whupped Canelo at 175, and now wants to show he can do it at 168. That's not ducking.
    canelo wanted the chance to prove he can beat dmitry at one seventy five. canelo gets no credit if the rematch takes place at super middle. dmitry was supposedly offered the same terms as the first fight, which is said to be a career high payday for dmitry & where he won the first fight. dmitry turned down the offer

    And why do you think Dmitry turned down the offer?

    (This oughta be good).
    you'd have to ask team dmitry why they turned down the same terms as the first fight
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    I guess Jack 'ducked 'Canelo too . More likely just calling him out on his obvious bullshat with the rehydration clause and trying to drain the man 20 lbs apparently. The fact a man comprehensively defeated is expecting the same terms of a first fight...at a same weight where he and fans already made countless excuses for losing...is nothing but a public saving face and pr exercise. Zero serious intent from Canelo.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I guess Jack 'ducked 'Canelo too . More likely just calling him out on his obvious bullshat with the rehydration clause and trying to drain the man 20 lbs apparently. The fact a man comprehensively defeated is expecting the same terms of a first fight...at a same weight where he and fans already made countless excuses for losing...is nothing but a public saving face and pr exercise. Zero serious intent from Canelo.
    who said badou ducked canelo? these rehydration clauses for one fighter have got to go. did you have the same energy for tank v king ry? what did team dmitry offer canelo in terms for a fight at one sixty eight? what excuses did i make for canelo losing to dmitry? canelo is on his farewell tour
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: WTF is stopping Canelo from fighting Benavidez?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    I guess Jack 'ducked 'Canelo too . More likely just calling him out on his obvious bullshat with the rehydration clause and trying to drain the man 20 lbs apparently. The fact a man comprehensively defeated is expecting the same terms of a first fight...at a same weight where he and fans already made countless excuses for losing...is nothing but a public saving face and pr exercise. Zero serious intent from Canelo.
    who said badou ducked canelo? these rehydration clauses for one fighter have got to go. did you have the same energy for tank v king ry? what did team dmitry offer canelo in terms for a fight at one sixty eight? what excuses did i make for canelo losing to dmitry? canelo is on his farewell tour
    I believe that's rhetorical. Yeh they should but I believe if it's mutual it might work. But in the name of safety if a guy wants to chase belts sac up and fight at the proper weight. No idea what was offered for 168, I was talking 175 where you said the terms were the same. No idea what excuses you personally made. Yep Canelo is eyeing the exit, been saying that for a bit now.

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