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    Default Re: White Nationalists and the alt right. Racist as fuck is no better than woke as fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    BUMP.

    I was looking for the "Woke as Fuck" thread, but found this one (which I never wrote in) and decided to put this here instead.



    https://www.cf.org/news/native-ameri...k-to-redskins/

    "Native American Group Threatens National Boycott If Washington NFL Team Doesn’t Change Name Back to ‘Redskins’"



    See... here's the thing. I agree with the statement of the thread title. "Racist as fuck" IS no better than "woke as fuck." Racism, IMHO, is one of the most despicable sentiments held by man. It's based on fear, ignorance, lust for hatred, and all kinds of dark sentiments. And to racism, you can add ethnic prejudices, sexism, and the like. To be clear, I'm not including wanting to force life choices on other people... so I'll add that disclaimer.

    But to see the very subjects (Native Americans) of this issue decry the change of a team name, and threaten to boycott the NFL if they don't change it back... well... that would be almost funny if it wasn't so damn ironically tragic. I won't regurgitate the points that are very well explained in the article. Suffice it to say what I've ALWAYS said and maintained. Changing team names and pancake syrup name brands (Aunt Jemima) does NOTHING to change the very real problems of racism in any society. It's misdirected window dressing. It's low hanging fruit. Except in this case it isn't even being picked from the right tree. It's ridiculous grandstanding by those who really don't want to do one damn thing to tackle the problems for real. So they pick on meaningless bullshit... pat each other on the back on a job well done... and go back to their pitiful lives.

    Meanwhile... you've got the very same Native Americans who I guess were apparently supposed to be (cough) grateful for this gesture... and they're up in arms and threatening to boycott the league if they don't change the name back.

    Priceless.

    So yes. Racist as fuck is just as bad as woke as fuck. But make no mistake about it. When people refuse to roll up their sleeves and do things for real... this is the type of brainless shit that happens. Speaking of "fuck".....

    WHO THE FUCK instructed this woke mob to speak up for the Native Americans?? Who gave them permission to act as their spokespersons and pressure the NFL to make this change?

    Where are they now that the Native American groups are protesting the name change??

    Why aren't they now proceeding to tackle every other professional and collegiate team with a supposedly "offensive" team name? (I'll just throw it out there that the list is quite long. Lots of work to do. ).

    Pathetic.
    A quick google shows that this group are a bunch of grifting bullshitters funded by Daniel Snyder, the NFL team's former owner. Here's a list of the board of directors: Jonathan Tso, David Finkenbinder, Demetrius Maraz, Jeffrey Charley.

    Some good old Native American names in there.

    The guy who wrote this story obviously didn't want the truth to get in the way of lots of clicks so didn't point this out to his readers.



    Instead of blurting out claims with no backup, what say you post the actual documented proof and sources? And of course your forum lackey would grovel at everything you blurt out, as per his custom.

    What group is a "bunch of grifting bullshitters funded by Dan Snyder"? NAGA? You got proof of that?

    It's NAGA that maintains it wants the Redskins name restored. Are you going to go down the list of its members and call into question whether they're "real" Native Americans? Is this part of your areas of expertise?

    We all know you're an unabashed left extremist, sympathetic with every liberal cause in the US.

    Which automatically disqualifies you from having any objective views on shit like George Floyd, BLM, NAGA, and every other org and cause out there... whether it has merits or not.

    I, on the other hand, base my opinions on a case-by-case basis... devoid of any extremist bullshit views.



    By the way... now that the Redskins are now the Commanders... how's THAT working out for the Native American community as a whole? Have all their problems magically disappeared? Cool, huh?

    Blunt pronouncements don't automatically mean they're right.

    So pull out the ol' charts and graphs and show me where your claims are factual. Otherwise this is just a pointless argument.



    Team name changes, pancake brand name changes... it's all meaningless window dressing. I figured someone as intelligent as you could see that. They're token gestures, meant to distract from the real problems these minorities face.

    But hey... let's not let logic get in the way of the snazzy one-liners, eh?

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    The National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) passes dozens of resolutions each year on matters of great importance to the welfare of the Native American community. (By the way, notice how they call themselves American Indians, not the Native American moniker the woke non-Indian crowd swears must be used to avoid being insensitive).

    Tell me, what percentage of those resolutions have anything to do with team names?

    Another question: How many of those resolutions, calling for government assistance in IMPORTANT MATTERS like protection of reservation lands, self-governance, protection from environmental threats, education for non-Native Americans, essential government services to tribal people, educational opportunities, health care for American Indians, etc, etc, etc, etc..... HOW MANY of those resolutions are actually acted upon by the very crowd of woke people in power who believe that changing team names is the answer to all the problems of the Native Americans??

    Who outside of the Native American community even gives a shit about any of these issues??

    I don't want snide remarks and nifty one-liners.

    I want answers.

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    By the way, there's literally HUNDREDS of teams at all levels (high school, college, pros) in all major sports in the US (football, baseball, hockey) that use Native American-related names.

    Let's not be hypocrites and go all the way. Let's demand that ALL of them change their names.

    But let's not stop with the Native Americans. There are other groups out there with just as much of a right to be offended by team names.

    How about the New York Yankees?

    The Notre Dame Fighting Irish?

    The Dallas Cowboys?



    Fuck. Why should the American Indians be the only ones offended??

    Once you start going down this slippery slope, everyone knows where it'll end. But who gives a shit, right?

    Again... who gives a shit about the REAL life problems faced by the Native Americans when we can just change a bunch of team names and call it a day, huh?

    Priorities.

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    I do not know if you area aware we had a similar incident with the 2 Manchester clubs having a sailing ship on their logo. It was part of the slave trade that made the City very prosperous, and some wanted to get rid of the ship. There was no traction to the request and the badges stayed as they are.



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    Wait, .... Who is Kirkland's Forum lackey? 😳😳😳🤣🤣🤣

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    Default Re: White Nationalists and the alt right. Racist as fuck is no better than woke as fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not know if you area aware we had a similar incident with the 2 Manchester clubs having a sailing ship on their logo. It was part of the slave trade that made the City very prosperous, and some wanted to get rid of the ship. There was no traction to the request and the badges stayed as they are.


    Thank you!

    Now IS there? Or ISN'T there a fine line between the meritorious and the ridiculous?

    Next thing you know people of Nordic ancestry will protest the Minnesota Vikings (NFL) name and logo.

    People with pirates in their family tree will denounce the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates.

    Common sense is in short supply these days.

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    Default Re: White Nationalists and the alt right. Racist as fuck is no better than woke as fu

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    BUMP.

    I was looking for the "Woke as Fuck" thread, but found this one (which I never wrote in) and decided to put this here instead.



    https://www.cf.org/news/native-ameri...k-to-redskins/

    "Native American Group Threatens National Boycott If Washington NFL Team Doesn’t Change Name Back to ‘Redskins’"



    See... here's the thing. I agree with the statement of the thread title. "Racist as fuck" IS no better than "woke as fuck." Racism, IMHO, is one of the most despicable sentiments held by man. It's based on fear, ignorance, lust for hatred, and all kinds of dark sentiments. And to racism, you can add ethnic prejudices, sexism, and the like. To be clear, I'm not including wanting to force life choices on other people... so I'll add that disclaimer.

    But to see the very subjects (Native Americans) of this issue decry the change of a team name, and threaten to boycott the NFL if they don't change it back... well... that would be almost funny if it wasn't so damn ironically tragic. I won't regurgitate the points that are very well explained in the article. Suffice it to say what I've ALWAYS said and maintained. Changing team names and pancake syrup name brands (Aunt Jemima) does NOTHING to change the very real problems of racism in any society. It's misdirected window dressing. It's low hanging fruit. Except in this case it isn't even being picked from the right tree. It's ridiculous grandstanding by those who really don't want to do one damn thing to tackle the problems for real. So they pick on meaningless bullshit... pat each other on the back on a job well done... and go back to their pitiful lives.

    Meanwhile... you've got the very same Native Americans who I guess were apparently supposed to be (cough) grateful for this gesture... and they're up in arms and threatening to boycott the league if they don't change the name back.

    Priceless.

    So yes. Racist as fuck is just as bad as woke as fuck. But make no mistake about it. When people refuse to roll up their sleeves and do things for real... this is the type of brainless shit that happens. Speaking of "fuck".....

    WHO THE FUCK instructed this woke mob to speak up for the Native Americans?? Who gave them permission to act as their spokespersons and pressure the NFL to make this change?

    Where are they now that the Native American groups are protesting the name change??

    Why aren't they now proceeding to tackle every other professional and collegiate team with a supposedly "offensive" team name? (I'll just throw it out there that the list is quite long. Lots of work to do. ).

    Pathetic.
    A quick google shows that this group are a bunch of grifting bullshitters funded by Daniel Snyder, the NFL team's former owner. Here's a list of the board of directors: Jonathan Tso, David Finkenbinder, Demetrius Maraz, Jeffrey Charley.

    Some good old Native American names in there.

    The guy who wrote this story obviously didn't want the truth to get in the way of lots of clicks so didn't point this out to his readers.



    Instead of blurting out claims with no backup, what say you post the actual documented proof and sources? And of course your forum lackey would grovel at everything you blurt out, as per his custom.

    What group is a "bunch of grifting bullshitters funded by Dan Snyder"? NAGA? You got proof of that?

    It's NAGA that maintains it wants the Redskins name restored. Are you going to go down the list of its members and call into question whether they're "real" Native Americans? Is this part of your areas of expertise?

    We all know you're an unabashed left extremist, sympathetic with every liberal cause in the US.

    Which automatically disqualifies you from having any objective views on shit like George Floyd, BLM, NAGA, and every other org and cause out there... whether it has merits or not.

    I, on the other hand, base my opinions on a case-by-case basis... devoid of any extremist bullshit views.



    By the way... now that the Redskins are now the Commanders... how's THAT working out for the Native American community as a whole? Have all their problems magically disappeared? Cool, huh?

    Blunt pronouncements don't automatically mean they're right.

    So pull out the ol' charts and graphs and show me where your claims are factual. Otherwise this is just a pointless argument.



    Team name changes, pancake brand name changes... it's all meaningless window dressing. I figured someone as intelligent as you could see that. They're token gestures, meant to distract from the real problems these minorities face.

    But hey... let's not let logic get in the way of the snazzy one-liners, eh?
    Yes. Blurting out claims with no back up.

    Daniel Snyder, former owner of the Washington team has a bit of history in this respect. When he owned the team he hired a fake Native American called Mark One Wolf, real name Mark E. Yancey, to try and make the case for keeping the team name:

    https://deadspin.com/is-the-redskins...ian-1642991295

    when that guy got exposed he tried again with another guy who also got caught.

    Since then Snyder managed to wreck the team and produce and endless list of lawsuits from employees alleging all kind of stuff from sexual harassment onwards. The other NFL owners launched an investigation and produced a secret report which they managed eventually to use to get him to sell the team. Snyder retaliated by digging up his own dirt on other owners and the whole thing escalated. Eventually they forced him to sell. I'm sure you remember some of it.


    Now after he's been forced out this collection of Chinese-American, Jewish-American cronies of Snyder and funded by Snyder come along and file a lawsuit and start some internet petition demanding the team goes back to its own name.





    Big Chief Finkenbinder. It's the nose that gives it away.


    None of the directors of this bullshit group or the president or any of the spokespeople are Native American. Some spokesman for the team called these fuckers a fake group and the fake group are suing the team for calling them fake along with running various petitions and other stuff to try and get the team to revert to the original name. It's basically just a pissed off Snyder fucking with the new owners and the NFL. Some parts of the conservative media like Fox have run articles about it and that's where we are.


    And once again, these name changes have nothing to do with any minority or the problems they face. These minorities have faced various problems for decades and nobody gave a shit. Nobody gives a shit now. Like Doctor Seuss or the pancake syrup or whatever else has had a post George Floyd makeover it's all down to money.

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    Interesting, if anything I'd imagine it would be the natives of the Americas who would call for the renaming of team's name repping colonizers, raiders and plunderers . Closest I've come to buccaneer and pirate backlash is one of the old logos of a school we attended. Originally it was a simple > < but a number of years ago at a reunion I was told they altered the image and actually removed the dagger from his mouth . They kept the tricorn hat, the eyepatch, the skull n bones and the name. It's weird like that. Then again, I was also suspended once for wearing a Vandals t shirt because of the M-16 and logo. But shit that was in the 80's. Think I'll go looking for that "woke as fuck" thread. Edit, hey there it is down there. The very first thread under "similar".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not know if you area aware we had a similar incident with the 2 Manchester clubs having a sailing ship on their logo. It was part of the slave trade that made the City very prosperous, and some wanted to get rid of the ship. There was no traction to the request and the badges stayed as they are.



    Hey the even added a Devil . In the States that would have a lot more meaning in some parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    None of the directors of this bullshit group or the president or any of the spokespeople are Native American. Some spokesman for the team called these fuckers a fake group and the fake group are suing the team for calling them fake along with running various petitions and other stuff to try and get the team to revert to the original name. It's basically just a pissed off Snyder fucking with the new owners and the NFL. Some parts of the conservative media like Fox have run articles about it and that's where we are.


    And once again, these name changes have nothing to do with any minority or the problems they face. These minorities have faced various problems for decades and nobody gave a shit. Nobody gives a shit now. Like Doctor Seuss or the pancake syrup or whatever else has had a post George Floyd makeover it's all down to money.


    One thing you and I can both agree on is that Dan Snyder is not a very nice person. Which is why he's no longer owner of the Washington team. About the only thing I like about the guy is that he held out as long as possible against the pressure being put on him to change the Redskins name.

    But here's where I guess we don't agree. I'm TOTALLY against tokenism. Changing team names and pancake syrup brands gives the APPEARENCE that people are doing something good for a marginalized and downtrodden group of people. When in reality it's just plain distracting. Maybe to YOU it doesn't have anything to do with "any minority or the problems they face." But to the woke bozos who force these changes... they DO. So they pound their chests and each other on the back and call it a day. Anybody that falls for that charade is a moron, in my book.

    I know you like to make everything about money and sure... there's always the financial component. But I'm talking about the tragically comical smoke screen that these token gestures represent.

    Aunt Jemima was pressured to change its name to Pearl Milling Company.

    Has this improved black-white race relations in the US?

    Has changing the Washington team name to the Commanders brought about any meaningful improvements in the dire needs of the Native American community?

    I honestly don't know how else to phrase this.

    But hey... we don't agree, and that's fine.

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    But here's where I guess we don't agree. I'm TOTALLY against tokenism. Changing team names and pancake syrup brands gives the APPEARENCE that people are doing something good for a marginalized and downtrodden group of people. When in reality it's just plain distracting. Maybe to YOU it doesn't have anything to do with "any minority or the problems they face." But to the woke bozos who force these changes... they DO. So they pound their chests and each other on the back and call it a day. Anybody that falls for that charade is a moron, in my book.

    I know you like to make everything about money and sure... there's always the financial component. But I'm talking about the tragically comical smoke screen that these token gestures represent.

    Aunt Jemima was pressured to change its name to Pearl Milling Company.

    Has this improved black-white race relations in the US?

    Has changing the Washington team name to the Commanders brought about any meaningful improvements in the dire needs of the Native American community?

    I honestly don't know how else to phrase this.

    But hey... we don't agree, and that's fine.

    Instead of blurting out claims with no backup I did a quick google and found that the Redskins owners first came under pressure to change their name in the 1960s. But it was the seventies before it became an issue. I'm guessing most or all of the name change victims whether it's sports teams or long grain rice or whatever first came under any kind of national pressure at this time. That's when all the lefty counterculture shit started:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washin...me_controversy

    And not one of these fucking teams or firms changed a thing. Not for half a century. But then all of a sudden they all do it in a period of a few months. They all make this pointless woke token gesture at the same time after resisting it for half a century. You know why? The calculation in the first fifty years was that giving a tiny minority and their lefty liberal fellow travellers what they wanted would produce a Middle American backlash at the crazy lefty shit and it would cost them money. Think Bud Light. Then the George Floyd protests happen and everybody gets polling (almost all polling in America is done by corporations to find out what Americans think about their brands, the political stuff these polling companies do is often a loss leader) and they find out there's a huge sea change in American attitudes to race and social justice and whatever and that it's going to cost them money not to do it. So that's why they did it.

    These gestures are not token gestures. They're gestures dictated by the single most important thing in America. Money and the making of money.

    Since I'm watching Game Five of the World Series I can explain to you a little bit. And this isn't coming from this crazed lefty, this is coming from maybe the foremost expert on the American elite that there is. If there are any people more expert you can count them on the fingers of one hand, maybe even on the fingers of one finger.

    I got to meet this guy watching the Yankees in a fancy box that a bank I used to work for had back in the day. Jeter, Bernie, Mariano. Long story short he was a personal banker for the bank's biggest customers. They deal with the bank directly through this guy. He's been looking after the banking and financial needs of America's elite since the seventies. And this guy knows everybody. He's still going now and has turned his job into a consultancy firm and his sons run it but he's still going in his eighties. It's easy to still do your job when it's all fancy restaurants, ball games, yacht clubs and so on. This guy is now advising and helping the sons and grandsons of guys he originally did the job for. He knows all the old money people all the way through to the new tech people too. And for a young twenty something from a godforsaken place in the north of England he helped fill in a lot of blanks about how the world works. And he's still doing that now. In the banking world everything is a trade. I'm trading information and expertise with him still after all this time.

    And let me tell you one single thing that you need to know about America. Everything, and I mean every single thing at corporate and rich elite people level is informed and determined by money and the making of money. There's no great deep state conspiracy out there or lizard people secretly running things or anything like that. There's just a bunch of guys, over a thousand now who run everything who own everything who control everything. Almost everything. And these guys are not complicated people let me tell you. They're exactly like average Americans in that they want to make more money, they want to pay less in taxes on that money and they want to pass what they've made onto their kids without some government taking it off them. They want a country and a world where it's easy and safe and profitable to do business. And that's it.

    Some of the people on this elite list are CEOs but the vast majority of CEO people are a notch down from the elite. These guys run the pancake syrup or long grain rice companies and they're changing names or whatever not as a token gesture but because their job is to increase profits and the share price and if they don't do that they'll get fired and maybe fall off the gravy train. Money and the making of money is their alpha and omega. They can technically be sent to prison for not making every cent they can for the businesses they run. They're judged on how well they've done every year by the people who own the stock and if they haven't done as well as expected they get replaced.

    People like the family who own the Dr. Seuss estate have a slightly different calculus. They have wealth and want more and are managing an asset that's declining in value as the march of time produces more and more children's books and more competition for the product they own. So they're going to do what they can to squeeze every last dollar out of their intellectual property before it's worthless. Once it is they're going to have to manage on what they have and hope they can manage their money well enough so that it'll be generations before any of them are financially insecure to any extent. The idea that some of their descendants may have to work for a living at some point in the future will be enough to give them the vapours and they'll be doing everything they can to kick that can as far down the road as possible.

    So these gestures are not token gestures. They're the most serious gestures you can possibly imagine. They're money gestures.

    And I used the wrong Jewish Native American photograph yesterday.




    How the hell did I forget this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Instead of blurting out claims with no backup I did a quick google and found that the Redskins owners first came under pressure to change their name in the 1960s. But it was the seventies before it became an issue. I'm guessing most or all of the name change victims whether it's sports teams or long grain rice or whatever first came under any kind of national pressure at this time. That's when all the lefty counterculture shit started:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washin...me_controversy

    And not one of these fucking teams or firms changed a thing. Not for half a century. But then all of a sudden they all do it in a period of a few months. They all make this pointless woke token gesture at the same time after resisting it for half a century. You know why? The calculation in the first fifty years was that giving a tiny minority and their lefty liberal fellow travellers what they wanted would produce a Middle American backlash at the crazy lefty shit and it would cost them money. Think Bud Light. Then the George Floyd protests happen and everybody gets polling (almost all polling in America is done by corporations to find out what Americans think about their brands, the political stuff these polling companies do is often a loss leader) and they find out there's a huge sea change in American attitudes to race and social justice and whatever and that it's going to cost them money not to do it. So that's why they did it.

    These gestures are not token gestures. They're gestures dictated by the single most important thing in America. Money and the making of money.

    Since I'm watching Game Five of the World Series I can explain to you a little bit. And this isn't coming from this crazed lefty, this is coming from maybe the foremost expert on the American elite that there is. If there are any people more expert you can count them on the fingers of one hand, maybe even on the fingers of one finger.

    I got to meet this guy watching the Yankees in a fancy box that a bank I used to work for had back in the day. Jeter, Bernie, Mariano. Long story short he was a personal banker for the bank's biggest customers. They deal with the bank directly through this guy. He's been looking after the banking and financial needs of America's elite since the seventies. And this guy knows everybody. He's still going now and has turned his job into a consultancy firm and his sons run it but he's still going in his eighties. It's easy to still do your job when it's all fancy restaurants, ball games, yacht clubs and so on. This guy is now advising and helping the sons and grandsons of guys he originally did the job for. He knows all the old money people all the way through to the new tech people too. And for a young twenty something from a godforsaken place in the north of England he helped fill in a lot of blanks about how the world works. And he's still doing that now. In the banking world everything is a trade. I'm trading information and expertise with him still after all this time.

    And let me tell you one single thing that you need to know about America. Everything, and I mean every single thing at corporate and rich elite people level is informed and determined by money and the making of money. There's no great deep state conspiracy out there or lizard people secretly running things or anything like that. There's just a bunch of guys, over a thousand now who run everything who own everything who control everything. Almost everything. And these guys are not complicated people let me tell you. They're exactly like average Americans in that they want to make more money, they want to pay less in taxes on that money and they want to pass what they've made onto their kids without some government taking it off them. They want a country and a world where it's easy and safe and profitable to do business. And that's it.

    Some of the people on this elite list are CEOs but the vast majority of CEO people are a notch down from the elite. These guys run the pancake syrup or long grain rice companies and they're changing names or whatever not as a token gesture but because their job is to increase profits and the share price and if they don't do that they'll get fired and maybe fall off the gravy train. Money and the making of money is their alpha and omega. They can technically be sent to prison for not making every cent they can for the businesses they run. They're judged on how well they've done every year by the people who own the stock and if they haven't done as well as expected they get replaced.

    People like the family who own the Dr. Seuss estate have a slightly different calculus. They have wealth and want more and are managing an asset that's declining in value as the march of time produces more and more children's books and more competition for the product they own. So they're going to do what they can to squeeze every last dollar out of their intellectual property before it's worthless. Once it is they're going to have to manage on what they have and hope they can manage their money well enough so that it'll be generations before any of them are financially insecure to any extent. The idea that some of their descendants may have to work for a living at some point in the future will be enough to give them the vapours and they'll be doing everything they can to kick that can as far down the road as possible.

    So these gestures are not token gestures. They're the most serious gestures you can possibly imagine. They're money gestures.

    And I used the wrong Jewish Native American photograph yesterday.

    How the hell did I forget this?


    You boil it all down to money, and that's great. I'm not disputing your point of view. But we're focusing on two different things. You're focusing on the effect. I'm focusing on the cause. Of course the CEO's of the world are going to cave to public pressure, if it endangers their bottom line. No one's arguing that.

    My focus continues to be on the segment of society that all of a sudden has "developed a conscience" and is behind these name change demands. I couldn't care less about the CEO's. They're spineless in their own way... and will lean in any direction the winds blow, just like politicians. The driving force is always going to be a controlling segment of society. In this case the woke mob that thinks changing name brands and team names is going magically make problems go away. It's a mindless, transparent, shallow, B.S. way of thinking.

    But yes... it's still the CEO's who cave and perform the name changes. I think that much is clear.

    My disgust is with the "window-dressing", token-clamoring segment of society, who... it might be said... are as racist, sexist, and ethnic-biased as the best of 'em.

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    The right wing also play up to the woke mob and culture wars because it deflects from their own incompetence and corruption. Better to make up or elevate an enemy to get people on your side.
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    The right wing also play up to the woke mob and culture wars because it deflects from their own incompetence and corruption. Better to make up or elevate an enemy to get people on your side.


    Hey, I get it. I don't like extremists on either side. They are the bane of the earth. But I judge issues on an individual basis. No amount of right-wing buildup can justify the outcry from the woke mob regarding superficial, meaningless things like pancake syrup brands and team names.

    Yes. Like Kirk is fond of saying... it was a financial decision made by the company's owners. But what made it necessary?? That's my point. What is all of a sudden so (cough) "offensive" about an Aunt Jemima brand that was over 100 years old?

    I'll happily stand alone on my island. But tokenism and window dressing, followed by pats on the back all around.... while the real problems of a minority go unnoticed or unaddressed.... are one of society's most nauseating ills.

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