Wilder resume.

[TIC]

deontay was always smoke & mirrors. he did well with what he had & starting late but his career was carefully maneuvered

[Big J]

Did Wilder over- achieve?
He started boxing at like 20
I'm sure we all agree he wasn't the best technically
With the help of some strategic match-making they got him to Stiverne
I remember many thinking he'd lose
Who expected him to come out & box, winning almost every round?
Then he got to his 1st real big challenge in Ortiz
However much he struggled in that fight he ended it with a shot gun blast in the 10th
He then fought Fury with lineal claims to a draw dropping him twice & with a different ref in a different place the fight could have been stopped
He put Breazeale to sleep & gave Ortiz a rematch
He then re-matched Fury & took a beating
He came back for more though & dropped Fury twice more in their 3rd fight
I personally think his record is thin but he achieved much more than I expected him to

[TitoFan]

Did Wilder over- achieve?
He started boxing at like 20
I'm sure we all agree he wasn't the best technically
With the help of some strategic match-making they got him to Stiverne
I remember many thinking he'd lose
Who expected him to come out & box, winning almost every round?
Then he got to his 1st real big challenge in Ortiz
However much he struggled in that fight he ended it with a shot gun blast in the 10th
He then fought Fury with lineal claims to a draw dropping him twice & with a different ref in a different place the fight could have been stopped
He put Breazeale to sleep & gave Ortiz a rematch
He then re-matched Fury & took a beating
He came back for more though & dropped Fury twice more in their 3rd fight
I personally think his record is thin but he achieved much more than I expected him to

Thank you for adding a different perspective on this.

In this mostly Wilder-hating forum, it's hard to find anyone that'll give him the credit he deserves. True, I did a 180 on him after his piss-poor performance against Parker. I also feel it's a totally different Wilder now than it was back in the "pre-3rd Fury fight days." Mainly because I think he's let the money and fame get to his head... plus the 3rd Fury fight took everything out of him.

But you're right on point regarding his previous fights and resume. He achieved much more than I expected him to, also.

Plus I'll say for the umpteenth time that a Wilder-Joshua fight (before they both got damaged) would've been a fight for the ages... and I would've given each a 50/50 chance.

[Master]

Wilder has claimed he heard a "rumour" AJ would have ended his illustrious career had he added Parker's name to his list of victims.

He told 78SPORTSTV: "The rumour was he was talking about retiring if I won… March 9th, the fight still can go on.

"But this is a perfect way for them to get out.”

And Wilder has a theory for why Hearn is touting other opponents for the Watford warrior.

He said: “They really don’t want that fight. When I lost, did you see how happy he was coming out?

"I broke out laughing, I said, ‘he's happy as f***."

"I made him able to perform like that. He was like, ‘I ain’t gotta fight Wilder.’"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25191...ht-retirement/

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I'm torn between my original impression that Wilder took too much of a beating in the fury 3 fight and would not have really anything left for future fights coupled with the fact that that knockout of Robert helenius was kind of just like a one-trick pony because it looked like Wilder had his eyes shut when he threw the Punch, OR..... If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt maybe he really did just have a bad night out against Parker...

EITHER WAY WILDER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHT FOR ANTHONY JOSHUA BECAUSE IT COULD SPELL TROUBLE AND WILDER ALWAYS HAS THAT HEAT SEEKING MISSILE TO PUT SOMEBODY TO SLEEP., EVEN IF HE LOSES EVERY ROUND IT'S ALWAYS AN IMMINENT THREAT.

I think wilder's reasoning is twisted and wrong but I do think that Anthony Joshua does not want this fight especially not on his little mini so-called comeback that he is making. If Wilder sparked Joshua that would definitely be the end of Joshua's career.

Little Anthony does not need to take this rather big risk

[Spicoli]

I'm torn between my original impression that Wilder took too much of a beating in the fury 3 fight and would not have really anything left for future fights coupled with the fact that that knockout of Robert helenius was kind of just like a one-trick pony because it looked like Wilder had his eyes shut when he threw the Punch, OR..... If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt maybe he really did just have a bad night out against Parker...

EITHER WAY WILDER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHT FOR ANTHONY JOSHUA BECAUSE IT COULD SPELL TROUBLE AND WILDER ALWAYS HAS THAT HEAT SEEKING MISSILE TO PUT SOMEBODY TO SLEEP., EVEN IF HE LOSES EVERY ROUND IT'S ALWAYS AN IMMINENT THREAT.

I think wilder's reasoning is twisted and wrong but I do think that Anthony Joshua does not want this fight especially not on his little mini so-called comeback that he is making. If Wilder sparked Joshua that would definitely be the end of Joshua's career.

Little Anthony does not need to take this rather big risk

And now AJ has basically put himself in a literal stay busy match with a 0-1-0 trivia question aka Ngannou...or flush career and any and all future down the toilet position. Almost enough to make me wish Wilder would have pulled the miracle vs Parker but it was not to be .

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I'm torn between my original impression that Wilder took too much of a beating in the fury 3 fight and would not have really anything left for future fights coupled with the fact that that knockout of Robert helenius was kind of just like a one-trick pony because it looked like Wilder had his eyes shut when he threw the Punch, OR..... If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt maybe he really did just have a bad night out against Parker...

EITHER WAY WILDER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHT FOR ANTHONY JOSHUA BECAUSE IT COULD SPELL TROUBLE AND WILDER ALWAYS HAS THAT HEAT SEEKING MISSILE TO PUT SOMEBODY TO SLEEP., EVEN IF HE LOSES EVERY ROUND IT'S ALWAYS AN IMMINENT THREAT.

I think wilder's reasoning is twisted and wrong but I do think that Anthony Joshua does not want this fight especially not on his little mini so-called comeback that he is making. If Wilder sparked Joshua that would definitely be the end of Joshua's career.

Little Anthony does not need to take this rather big risk

And now AJ has basically put himself in a literal stay busy match with a 0-1-0 trivia question aka Ngannou...or flush career and any and all future down the toilet position. Almost enough to make me wish Wilder would have pulled the miracle vs Parker but it was not to be .

What's astonishing is that everyone made fun of Tyson Fury for fighting this guy and now Joshua wants to do the same thing? With very good reason he is now going to get double the criticism.

Imagine how much worse it would actually be if Wilder had won that fight and Joshua still chose to fight Francis!

[Spicoli]

Did Wilder over- achieve?
He started boxing at like 20
I'm sure we all agree he wasn't the best technically
With the help of some strategic match-making they got him to Stiverne
I remember many thinking he'd lose
Who expected him to come out & box, winning almost every round?
Then he got to his 1st real big challenge in Ortiz
However much he struggled in that fight he ended it with a shot gun blast in the 10th
He then fought Fury with lineal claims to a draw dropping him twice & with a different ref in a different place the fight could have been stopped
He put Breazeale to sleep & gave Ortiz a rematch
He then re-matched Fury & took a beating
He came back for more though & dropped Fury twice more in their 3rd fight
I personally think his record is thin but he achieved much more than I expected him to

Fair enough perspective but again save for Ortiz he won and lost every fight I thought he would, one fans pov. Well and then of course there was Parker . And the strategic match making not only led to Stiverne...who won the title as a rated underdog vs Chris Arreola...but continued after. Considering what he was working with and obvious flaws we all saw, sure he did well for himself. But I see it more as a flawed over self promoting fighter leveling off once the levels actually and finally ticked up. The man actually thought he was a more dangerous puncher than Tyson ffs .