Who is next for Canelo?

[TitoFan]

Something feels really off about the "big" announcement. So the fights are still free in Mexico...well ok. It came off like a two parter but still waiting on the other shoe to drop as far as opponent. Wondering if it fell through or just hasn't been set yet. Canelo is a master at the string along. At the point where if it's not Benavidez then I'm not hard pressed for it. Can't fight guys out of your division forever Canelo.

Said it before, an undisputed champion has an obligation to defend against division top and mandatory challengers. Especially when you have two labeled champs in your own house.

there are rumours, not from the best sources that canelo's guarantee hasn't been put into an escrow account yet & canelo gave them an extention, that is why no opponent was announced

Now the chatter is no Benavidez in 2024, depending on who ya trust. So no Bud, Charlo or Benavidez.

Bring on Berlanga ffs . You'd think the 'face of boxing' would have it figured less than 90 days out. It's probably Charlo..

Oh PLEEEEEASE..... not Berlanga.

That's all I need. For Canelo to feast on an overhyped Puerto Rican and get an undeserved spot on the storied PR-Mexico rivalry. I'm not a Berlanga fan, and honestly wish he'd just go away and keep cutting records and shit. I don't think he's dedicated enough. Whatever happened to Mungia? I know Canelo says "no Mexicans", but I'm sure he'd make an exception for Munguia, knowing full well he poses no danger to him. No... the only acceptable opponent here is Benavidez. But we all know that's NOT gonna happen. It's not in the Hollywood script.

[TIC]

edgar might lose his next fight

[TitoFan]

I honestly hope you're right. I'd hate to see him face Canelo. Easy pickings for the red-headed diva.

[TIC]

i don't see any american's for canelo to fight at light-heavy or cruiser either

[Spicoli]

Something feels really off about the "big" announcement. So the fights are still free in Mexico...well ok. It came off like a two parter but still waiting on the other shoe to drop as far as opponent. Wondering if it fell through or just hasn't been set yet. Canelo is a master at the string along. At the point where if it's not Benavidez then I'm not hard pressed for it. Can't fight guys out of your division forever Canelo.

Said it before, an undisputed champion has an obligation to defend against division top and mandatory challengers. Especially when you have two labeled champs in your own house.

there are rumours, not from the best sources that canelo's guarantee hasn't been put into an escrow account yet & canelo gave them an extention, that is why no opponent was announced

Now the chatter is no Benavidez in 2024, depending on who ya trust. So no Bud, Charlo or Benavidez.

Bring on Berlanga ffs . You'd think the 'face of boxing' would have it figured less than 90 days out. It's probably Charlo..

Oh PLEEEEEASE..... not Berlanga.

That's all I need. For Canelo to feast on an overhyped Puerto Rican and get an undeserved spot on the storied PR-Mexico rivalry. I'm not a Berlanga fan, and honestly wish he'd just go away and keep cutting records and shit. I don't think he's dedicated enough. Whatever happened to Mungia? I know Canelo says "no Mexicans", but I'm sure he'd make an exception for Munguia, knowing full well he poses no danger to him. No... the only acceptable opponent here is Benavidez. But we all know that's NOT gonna happen. It's not in the Hollywood script.

Yeh he's playing games a bit with the "it's an American" thing. The whole announcement was bait and switch so as expected fans follow along. The inner hopeful non cynical fan in me that remains says you simply do not bleed out and string along a major fight announcement unless it's a major fight. At this point announcing a Charlo would be universally booed off the stage...surely. Munguia would be fun but is more Dollar General compared to Benavidez. Time for the King and face of boxing to sac up.

[TIC]

canelo can basically do whatever he likes at this stage of his career, similar to how floyd ended his. i'd be okay if it's a shit opponent in may if there's a big fight guarantee for september. i was thinking he could fulfil the ibf mandatory against william scull but he's not american. please don't give us boo boo or caleb part two

[Spicoli]

canelo can basically do whatever he likes at this stage of his career, similar to how floyd ended his. i'd be okay if it's a shit opponent in may if there's a big fight guarantee for september. i was thinking he could fulfil the ibf mandatory against william scull but he's not american. please don't give us boo boo or caleb part two

I'm going to need to go a little apples and oranges. But oddly, who wasn't roasting Mayweather also? I sure was. But at least he had a belt or two taken away and announced Berto was the last official hurrah. And the honest fan in me says Benavidez gives Canelo a much much tougher fight than say a early Thurman would have given Mayweather. Can't bring myself to defend Floyd but Canelo was no Mayweather. Canelo is literally wearing a crown and called full undisputed, keeper of all belts he chooses not to defend in the respected division as of late.

And still no opponent named for his May "big" fight. We're now far under 90 days out and that is insane to me. But I guess these are the times we live in now as fans.

[TIC]

i'm just comparing the final stages of floyd's career to where canelo is now. canelo is a big enough star like floyd was that he can pick & choose who he fights, like floyd did with his six fight contract. i agree that canelo needs to fight some of these young guys but if he's not going to then one of them needs to start cleaning out the division themselves. david b, david m, jaime, christian mbilli, diego pacheco, edgar berlanga, william scull, erik bazinyan, vladimir shishkin, caleb, kevin lele sadjo, bektemir melikuziev, sergiy derevyanchenko. the division doesn't need to be static, the belts are meaningless if the fighters are proving themselves against each other. but the fighters are too inactive, sitting on rankings & hoping for a payday, instead of wanting to prove they are the best. if canelo won't fight you then seek out the next best guy & then go after the next & so on

[TitoFan]

Canelo's coach Eddy Reynoso explains why Canelo can't fight Benavidez now

“Look, I think at this point in Saul's career we need to be VERY careful about anything we do later, why? Because these are the last years that Saul is going to have as a fighter, and we really have to see what suits Saul, you know, the interests. We are NOT afraid of Benavidez, but all that, as I tell you, no one wants to fight and there you go, there are a lot of interests going everywhere, promoters, managers, televisions, so it It's complicated to do this kind of fight, but fear of us towards David Benavidez, Believe me, there is none."



This is the biggest crock of bullshit I have ever read. C'mon Ginger and Team... just man up and say you're scared shitless of getting KTFO'ed by Benavidez and just leave it at that.

Instead... the red-headed diva keeps poking around the ranks of the undersized big names.

[Big J]

Alvarez says Sugar Ray Robinson & Monzon wouldn't have beaten him 🤪
It was posted today that PBC are ready to pay Alvarez his guarantee to fight Munguia next but not 'Mall

[TIC]

there is also a rumour that pbc have offered canelo a guaranteed fifty five million to fight david benavidez on may fourth. it is said if the offer is declined david b will take the fight at light-heavy against oleksandr.

it should be made aware that sampson lewkowicz claimed last year that a fight between david b & david morrell was signed

[Spicoli]

I believe my inner cynic has taken over regarding Canelo. But this comes off like some ultra maneuvering straight from the top of the wbc and team Canelo shell game. So he waits Benavidez out and along comes the runner up prize of "interim" shot and a supposed guarantee fight with a Bivol v Beterbiev that has yet to happen. Oh and he gets to leave the division for it...the guy who has already been called weight bully and will now need to boil back down "if" the Canelo fight is lined for September...a 3 month turn around for Benavidez. We, you, me, my cat, my drunk neighbor, your cat...we all know that's not happening! Gets better...Reynoso trainer of Canelo is working with Gvozdyk and now has a firsthand direct preview and scout on facing him in the ring. Brilliant. Benavidez moving to 175 is not an experiment and while The Nail is on a comeback after Beterbiev tore him down he still remains a very live skilled boxer-puncher. I think it's a solid match and Benavidez gets nothing but respect. But this is still Canelo getting away with 'jump thru my hoops' first bullshat rather than fulfill his responsibility as "undisputed King". You don't see any ducks clearer than this. Unless they're sitting at your feet at the park begging for bread ffs.

And the "face of boxing" is currently set to face the highly regarded TBA from parts unknown in just 75 ? days and asking you to pay for it. The man is a shameless charlatan and the entire act and string along and all the sheep marching in step is tiresome.

You're King Canelo. You're currently "undisputed" and the face of boxing. You are the El Grande Ginger of the sweet science. Just fight the best in your 168 division champ. Defend! That is literally all critics are asking you to do at this point in time.

[TIC]

who is forcing david b to move up? he could have faced david morrell, his promoter claimed a fight between them was signed last year. pbc can't get david b jaime either? what about christian mbilli? team david b are choosing to move up to fight a thirty six year old who was beaten into a three year retirement. eddy reynoso is also denying that any offer has been received to fight david b & sampson lewkowicz has mysteriously deleted his tweet i posted above claiming an offer was made. i'm not defending canelo here, canelo is going to do what canelo wants. there are very good fights for david b to make at super middle. there is no need to wait on another fighter to define your legacy, make your own

[TitoFan]

Does anybody recall any of these shenanigans in the days of Marquez, Barrera, Morales??

Hey... I know, just like everyone else, that a certain amount of ducking and "A-siding" has always been a part of boxing. But really??

When has there been anywhere near the amount of hate for a fighter (who's obviously good) as there is for Canelo? And I'm not talking about this forum. I'm talking about social media, where just about every post brings scores of comments... some in favor, but many against... about the red-headed diva.

I don't remember there being (other than PED users, which BTW Ginger got his wrist slapped about also) so much controversy surrounding champions of the past. If we're talking strictly Mexican fighters, I don't recall the aforementioned three (or any of the other champions) being as universally reviled for shenanigans like "marinating", "protecting the zero", catchweights, trinket-chasing, weight-draining, plain ol' ducking, and many of the other shit that this clown has subjected boxing to over the last decade or so.

And it's almost exclusively Ginger. Because all around him... fights go on as usual. The best fighting the best... zeros be damned. Very little drama (well... except in the heavyweights with Fury). Just good boxing, with fighters taking risks like in the good old days. Personally... I can't wait till this clown retires. He THINKS he's going to go down in history as one of the very best... when in reality history will see him as one of the most controversial fighters in history, for his penchant for chasing undersized, over-the-hill, or otherwise disadvantaged fighters.

Remember when he tried to get Badou Jack to drain himself 20 pounds? Badou basically told him to shove it up his ass... for which I was ecstatically happy.

No matter how you slice it... the fact of the matter is: Canelo is on his own lonely island when it comes to having a manufactured career. That is precisely why many true boxing fans (Mexicans included) loathe him... and why opinions are so divided and polarized on social media. You can love a fighter or you can hate a fighter. But it's usually because of PED use or other factors like that. With Canelo it's because of the carefully built, untouchable personna he has built for himself.

Oh... and let's not kid ourselves. Ginger has avoided David Benavidez like the plague.


F*CK Canelo.

[Spicoli]

who is forcing david b to move up? he could have faced david morrell, his promoter claimed a fight between them was signed last year. pbc can't get david b jaime either? what about christian mbilli? team david b are choosing to move up to fight a thirty six year old who was beaten into a three year retirement. eddy reynoso is also denying that any offer has been received to fight david b & sampson lewkowicz has mysteriously deleted his tweet i posted above claiming an offer was made. i'm not defending canelo here, canelo is going to do what canelo wants. there are very good fights for david b to make at super middle. there is no need to wait on another fighter to define your legacy, make your own

This is all a maneuver with the wbc still padding the cradle for Canelo. It's pretty obvious they tossed it out of the blue with guarantees of interims and titles for Benavidez. This isn't about Benavidez vs the 168 runner ups. David has been the top challenger for literal years now and mandatory under one strap. The man has been ranked 168 Ring #1 longer than Morrell has even been a professional fighter. And he didn't get placed there, he actually beat a fellow top 10. Then he demolished another top 10 to rank up. I like and respect Morrell, he has big things ahead. But this is a fans expectation of Saul Alvarez aka Canelo to step tf up to top challengers and defend vs 168 very best. He is the "face of boxing". YOU are the undisputed. This challenge and mega fight has been a no brainer for years now. Yet we excuse it away so Canelo aka Saul Alvarez can continue his low expectations ppv charade and actually have fans anticipating a fight with TBA. It's embarrassing dude.