Who is next for Canelo?

[TitoFan]

Piggybacking off Denilson's comments, without the racial component...

Truth is Canelo's always been scared shitless of fighting ANY opponent he deems a threat. Specifically a knockout threat. Exceptions? Sure. Bivol... who became a glaring exception to this rule, because he represented another weight division trinket for Canelo to grab. Odd... he didn't go after Beterbiev. Hmm...

Canelo's habit of reaching for a new weight trinket, only to run scurrying back down... is curiously something people stay away from discussing. Why the fukk is that? I wonder. Is this a taboo topic? Hell... it's there in black and white.

But back to Canelo being scared shitless... Canelo's worst nightmare isn't being outpointed by an opponent. Shit... he's an automatic leg up on anyone he faces in Vegas or anywhere else in the Southwestern United States. You literally have to knock Canelo out to get the nod. Bivol was a prime example. He schooled and shut out Canelo... and was almost robbed.

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[TitoFan]

Canelo, aside for the marinated, weight drained, over the hill, or undersized opponents.... has always feasted on mediocre or underachieving British opponents. That's where the bronze Canelo statue should be erected. This is why many British fans consider Canelo even more than an ATG. Canelo owes more than he could ever repay to the British. It's not about race, as Denilson claimed. It's about a style of fighter that Canelo feasted upon.

I'm long over being accused of being a Canelo hater. Guilty as charged. Anyone who wants to get me a plaque on that is more than welcome.

But I'll continue asking another question I've always asked.

Why is it only Canelo with the extreme hate? Why not JMM? Why not MAB? Why not Morales? The answer is painfully clear, and I've shouted it from the rooftops since Day 1.

In my opinion, the final nail in Canelo's public image coffin was his blatant, unabashed, shameful ducking of Benavidez. But he saw fit recently to ask Badou Jack to drain himself of 20 pounds, to fight for some bogus "cruiserweight title."

Why is THIS also swept continuously under the rug??

FUKK CANELO.

And yes... I accept the nomination as president of the anti-Canelo club.

[TIC]

Canelo's habit of reaching for a new weight trinket, only to run scurrying back down... is curiously something people stay away from discussing. Why the fukk is that? I wonder. Is this a taboo topic? Hell... it's there in black and white.

canelo fought rocky fielding after back to back fights with ggg & followed by danny jacobs. canelo moved back down to fight danny who was the ibf middleweight champion & was coming of fights against ggg, luis arias, maciej sulecki & sergiy derevyanchenko in his last four fights, all who were undefeated before fighting danny. canelo fought sergey kovalev immediately after fighting danny jacobs in a three belt middleweight unification, moving up two divisions to fight a current world champion, then moved back down to fight callum smith, an unbeaten champion & seen as the number one guy in the division, to begin his attempt to unify the division, which he did within an eleventh month span. canelo then fought the number two guy in the division above him in dmitry. then came back down to fight ggg & john ryder, who he was contracted to fight. ggg was a three belt unified middleweight champion & john had earned his mandatory position & probably should have already been a champion. it's all been discussed before & is just boring for me now. for someone so against canelo you sure talk about him a lot. if i'm not interested in a fighter i'll barely mention them. there are plenty of good things in the sport to focus on like the really good otabek kholmatov v raymond ford fight that just occurred & the intriguing, competitive fights on the aj undercard this week

[TitoFan]

And thank goodness for those other, GOOD fights and fighters. I mention him because he's so polarizing. So I make my case. I also mention him because IMO he has done some damage to boxing. I love the sport and have followed it for years. That qualifies me to talk about Canelo, and talk about Canelo I shall.

[TIC]

talk about Canelo I shall.

no one said you shouldn't

[Spicoli]

That's the problem and has been..."Canelo is going to do (only) what Canelo wants to do". He's setting a great example for the next generation of pampered Primadona's. Benavidez pretty much just got tired of the stall and BS and let's be abundantly clear to the obvious...Canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked challenger and has for me rendered the whole "undisputed" mantra meaningless. If you are enabled and green lighted to avoid key matches and fighters you are not resolving disputes. You're getting over on the fans.

On the flip side I think Benavidez even mentioning Zurdo is foolish and an empty vessel. Pointless and you cannot have a bigger contrast in how two professionals conduct themselves. No interest in that at all. Also the fact that, one thing at a time. This sounds again like someone is trying to grease the wheels and incentivize the biggest threat to Canelo to keep going another direction and forget alllll about a 168 return.

[TIC]

That's the problem and has been..."Canelo is going to do (only) what Canelo wants to do". He's setting a great example for the next generation of pampered Primadona's. Benavidez pretty much just got tired of the stall and BS and let's be abundantly clear to the obvious...Canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked challenger and has for me rendered the whole "undisputed" mantra meaningless. If you are enabled and green lighted to avoid key matches and fighters you are not resolving disputes. You're getting over on the fans.

On the flip side I think Benavidez even mentioning Zurdo is foolish and an empty vessel. Pointless and you cannot have a bigger contrast in how two professionals conduct themselves. No interest in that at all. Also the fact that, one thing at a time. This sounds again like someone is trying to grease the wheels and incentivize the biggest threat to Canelo to keep going another direction and forget alllll about a 168 return.

you are correct canelo will do what he wants to do. he's not forcing anyone to follow is example. i'm not sure i agree that it's obvious that canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked contender. i do rate david b as the top contender but to be fair david m should be at the front of the line based on the order of mandatories. if you want to say canelo is refusing to fight the current top guys (david b, david m, christian mbilli, jaime munguia, he's already fought caleb) i would agree with that. the problem is we don't know much about canelo's next fight & what his new deal will be. as for david b, like i said previously, if he is serious about a canelo fight he should stay at super middle & fight the other top guys, make his own legacy, if the canelo fight never happens at least he would have built his own path. i thought the idea of going to light heavy was to get an interim belt (wbc making up their rules as they go as usual) & a potential shot at the artur v dmitry winner. i think david b moving up is a bad idea, unless he can't make super middle anymore but his last two fights have shown he can come in under the limit

[Spicoli]

That's the problem and has been..."Canelo is going to do (only) what Canelo wants to do". He's setting a great example for the next generation of pampered Primadona's. Benavidez pretty much just got tired of the stall and BS and let's be abundantly clear to the obvious...Canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked challenger and has for me rendered the whole "undisputed" mantra meaningless. If you are enabled and green lighted to avoid key matches and fighters you are not resolving disputes. You're getting over on the fans.

On the flip side I think Benavidez even mentioning Zurdo is foolish and an empty vessel. Pointless and you cannot have a bigger contrast in how two professionals conduct themselves. No interest in that at all. Also the fact that, one thing at a time. This sounds again like someone is trying to grease the wheels and incentivize the biggest threat to Canelo to keep going another direction and forget alllll about a 168 return.

you are correct canelo will do what he wants to do. he's not forcing anyone to follow is example. i'm not sure i agree that it's obvious that canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked contender. i do rate david b as the top contender but to be fair david m should be at the front of the line based on the order of mandatories. if you want to say canelo is refusing to fight the current top guys (david b, david m, christian mbilli, jaime munguia, he's already fought caleb) i would agree with that. the problem is we don't know much about canelo's next fight & what his new deal will be. as for david b, like i said previously, if he is serious about a canelo fight he should stay at super middle & fight the other top guys, make his own legacy, if the canelo fight never happens at least he would have built his own path. i thought the idea of going to light heavy was to get an interim belt (wbc making up their rules as they go as usual) & a potential shot at the artur v dmitry winner. i think david b moving up is a bad idea, unless he can't make super middle anymore but his last two fights have shown he can come in under the limit

You and I have gone over Morrell and Benavidez so we'll chalk that up as a disagreement to agree on. Morrell may be a 'regular' title holder for the wba but he's fought zero top 10 fighters. With respect you are the single sole individual I've come across that does not consider Benavidez as the top deserving challenger to Canelo. Morrell just inherited Berlanga as a #1 along with Canelo so it's quite possible Morrell can start there by beating his first name fighter. We'll hopefully see that happen. The shat thing to do would be to skip right over Morrell and his title in order to serve Berlanga up to Cinnaduck in Sept. I seriously hope not.

[TIC]

That's the problem and has been..."Canelo is going to do (only) what Canelo wants to do". He's setting a great example for the next generation of pampered Primadona's. Benavidez pretty much just got tired of the stall and BS and let's be abundantly clear to the obvious...Canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked challenger and has for me rendered the whole "undisputed" mantra meaningless. If you are enabled and green lighted to avoid key matches and fighters you are not resolving disputes. You're getting over on the fans.

On the flip side I think Benavidez even mentioning Zurdo is foolish and an empty vessel. Pointless and you cannot have a bigger contrast in how two professionals conduct themselves. No interest in that at all. Also the fact that, one thing at a time. This sounds again like someone is trying to grease the wheels and incentivize the biggest threat to Canelo to keep going another direction and forget alllll about a 168 return.

you are correct canelo will do what he wants to do. he's not forcing anyone to follow is example. i'm not sure i agree that it's obvious that canelo shamelessly refuses to fight the top ranked contender. i do rate david b as the top contender but to be fair david m should be at the front of the line based on the order of mandatories. if you want to say canelo is refusing to fight the current top guys (david b, david m, christian mbilli, jaime munguia, he's already fought caleb) i would agree with that. the problem is we don't know much about canelo's next fight & what his new deal will be. as for david b, like i said previously, if he is serious about a canelo fight he should stay at super middle & fight the other top guys, make his own legacy, if the canelo fight never happens at least he would have built his own path. i thought the idea of going to light heavy was to get an interim belt (wbc making up their rules as they go as usual) & a potential shot at the artur v dmitry winner. i think david b moving up is a bad idea, unless he can't make super middle anymore but his last two fights have shown he can come in under the limit

You and I have gone over Morrell and Benavidez so we'll chalk that up as a disagreement to agree on. Morrell may be a 'regular' title holder for the wba but he's fought zero top 10 fighters. With respect you are the single sole individual I've come across that does not consider Benavidez as the top deserving challenger to Canelo. Morrell just inherited Berlanga as a #1 along with Canelo so it's quite possible Morrell can start there by beating his first name fighter. We'll hopefully see that happen. The shat thing to do would be to skip right over Morrell and his title in order to serve Berlanga up to Cinnaduck in Sept. I seriously hope not.

i literally said i rate david b as the top contender. i'm just saying in the world of sanctioning bodies david m should be first according to the mandatory rotation

[TIC]

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