Conspiracy theories

[Spicoli]

[QUOTE=TIC;1664918][QUOTE=Spicoli;1664896]

Was he 163 for hapless Rolls, yeh. But do I consider Golovkin a "career middleweight" (until Canelo III) yes

i also consider ggg a career middleweight but that dosn't make it a fact that he fought his entire career at 160. what weight division was the steve rolls fight within?

Well see man that is where it gets so silly, the semantics and "technicalities" in boxing that is. At the time it was literally a catchweight with max allowed weight of 164, no more. Technically (gotta love boxing ) that is neither legit middleweight or legit spr middle. It's just silly shit, CW's in general, that was pretty pointless when the real story was his Dazn signing, ring return etc. No one cared. People can call it super middle, middle or a predictable 164 mismatch. Hey at least there wasn't a new division belt created for it . On a side also noticed Golovkin had two fights at 161 early career but can't recall the names if I was paid to.

[TIC]

[QUOTE=Spicoli;1664927][QUOTE=TIC;1664918]

Was he 163 for hapless Rolls, yeh. But do I consider Golovkin a "career middleweight" (until Canelo III) yes

i also consider ggg a career middleweight but that dosn't make it a fact that he fought his entire career at 160. what weight division was the steve rolls fight within?

Well see man that is where it gets so silly, the semantics and "technicalities" in boxing that is. At the time it was literally a catchweight with max allowed weight of 164, no more. Technically (gotta love boxing ) that is neither legit middleweight or legit spr middle. It's just silly shit, CW's in general, that was pretty pointless when the real story was his Dazn signing, ring return etc. No one cared. People can call it super middle, middle or a predictable 164 mismatch. Hey at least there wasn't a new division belt created for it . On a side also noticed Golovkin had two fights at 161 early career but can't recall the names if I was paid to.

nah it gets silly when something is claimed to be a fact, when it isn't. so what weight division was the ggg v steve rolls fought within? ggg having other fights above 160 makes it even more ridiculous to claim it's a fact that he fought his entire career at 160

[TitoFan]

Wow.

You still harping on that shit, bro? (LMAO)

The only "silly" and "ridiculous" aspects here are a defense of Canelo dragging a CAREER middleweight up to 168 for the first time ever. A career middleweight, mind you, who was totally over the hill at 40 years of age. A career middleweight who got blatantly ROBBED in his 1st fight with Canelo... and decides to try it again... in VEGAS, still.

The silly and ridiculous part is using the technicality of one fight at 163 to somehow make the argument that there is no weight or size advantage for Canelo.

You see... when a person is reduced to picking at an insignificant, shitty detail such as that one... to make a point... not only is it silly and ridiculous. It's downright embarrassing and pathetic.

So we'll work on your "I Was Right" trophy... while secretly chuckling at your argument that, because Golovkin fought at 163 ONE TIME... that it somehow makes your defense of Canelo valid.

Will a trophy suffice?
Maybe a plaque or something?
How about an autographed picture of me saying "You're right"?

I'm all about pleasing my fellow Saddo'ers.

[TitoFan]

You know what, bro?

I was going to leave it there. But I'm gonna say what I should've said a long time ago.

From your sig (which I had to log out to see), I gather that... "The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career"... is an exact quote. I'll take your word for it, 'cause I can't be bothered to go dredging through old posts.

Let me give you a free lesson in adult conversational arguments, and/or logical thinking.

Had I said...

"GGG fought at 160 in every single one of his fights."

Or... "GGG never weighed in at more than 160 for any of his fights."

You would've had a valid point.

But the statement that GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career, is a true statement that is understood as such by most adult-filled audiences, who understand the true meaning of a statement.

The use of "160" is synonymous with saying "middleweight." So I could've just as well said... "The fact is GGG has fought at middleweight for his entire career."

The thing is... you KNOW what the fuck I mean. The fact you're picking at one fight where he weighed 163 is pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

The fact that this even merits discussion is pretty pathetic also.

But hey... you're a COVID denier. So I don't expect any of this to actually get through.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

This HAS to be the longest running back and forth in recent forum memory. I feel it hinges on the old idiomatic expression "failing to see the forest for the trees".

[Primo Carnera]

This HAS to be the longest running back and forth in recent forum memory. I feel it hinges on the old idiomatic expression "failing to see the forest for the trees".

And over so many different Threads.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

This HAS to be the longest running back and forth in recent forum memory. I feel it hinges on the old idiomatic expression "failing to see the forest for the trees".

And over so many different Threads.

Yes great point. I believe this started on the boxing forum, bled into a 2nd thread on that same forum, then EASILY sneaked it's way into TWO off topic threads and who knows? It may have even appeared in a let's get it on thread. We could even put this or Mods could MOVE IT onto the "Conspiracy theories" thread (oh wait! They already DID) as it's beginning to look staged for our wonderment or entertainment.

But for SURE what has given it new life lately is that Tito fan says he had not even seen that signature of TIC until just a few days ago!.... when all of us had seen it for at least one or two years and marveled at the fact that he had never mentioned it before. SO.....is this now needing another "home" in (yet) another forum/thread?

Hell, I could even see it SOMEHOW appearing in, say, "Shooting spree of the month" or maybe "posters who you miss".

I mean, why the duck not at this point? 🤫🤫🤫 (Wait! Don't tell them! We don't want any spoilers for where this could lead.)

[TIC]

You know what, bro?

I was going to leave it there. But I'm gonna say what I should've said a long time ago.

From your sig (which I had to log out to see), I gather that... "The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career"... is an exact quote. I'll take your word for it, 'cause I can't be bothered to go dredging through old posts.

Let me give you a free lesson in adult conversational arguments, and/or logical thinking.

Had I said...

"GGG fought at 160 in every single one of his fights."

Or... "GGG never weighed in at more than 160 for any of his fights."

You would've had a valid point.

But the statement that GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career, is a true statement that is understood as such by most adult-filled audiences, who understand the true meaning of a statement.

The use of "160" is synonymous with saying "middleweight." So I could've just as well said... "The fact is GGG has fought at middleweight for his entire career."

The thing is... you KNOW what the fuck I mean. The fact you're picking at one fight where he weighed 163 is pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

The fact that this even merits discussion is pretty pathetic also.

But hey... you're a COVID denier. So I don't expect any of this to actually get through.

i've just got one question for you. answer it honestly & i'll delete my signature & never mention your made up fact again. because there can only be one answer. one will confirm your fact is in fact correct. the only will show your fact is incorrect. what weight division was ggg v steve rolls fought within at the time it happened, middleweight or super middleweight?

[TitoFan]

You know what, bro?

I was going to leave it there. But I'm gonna say what I should've said a long time ago.

From your sig (which I had to log out to see), I gather that... "The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career"... is an exact quote. I'll take your word for it, 'cause I can't be bothered to go dredging through old posts.

Let me give you a free lesson in adult conversational arguments, and/or logical thinking.

Had I said...

"GGG fought at 160 in every single one of his fights."

Or... "GGG never weighed in at more than 160 for any of his fights."

You would've had a valid point.

But the statement that GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career, is a true statement that is understood as such by most adult-filled audiences, who understand the true meaning of a statement.

The use of "160" is synonymous with saying "middleweight." So I could've just as well said... "The fact is GGG has fought at middleweight for his entire career."

The thing is... you KNOW what the fuck I mean. The fact you're picking at one fight where he weighed 163 is pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

The fact that this even merits discussion is pretty pathetic also.

But hey... you're a COVID denier. So I don't expect any of this to actually get through.

i've just got one question for you. answer it honestly & i'll delete my signature & never mention your made up fact again. because there can only be one answer. one will confirm your fact is in fact correct. the only will show your fact is incorrect. what weight division was ggg v steve rolls fought within at the time it happened, middleweight or super middleweight?

To be brutally frank... and I'm being as truthful as I can be... the whole thing doesn't even bother me that much. I've had a lot worse arguments on here. In addition, I know you didn't bring it up. Your sig just happened to be mentioned. Plus I don't see sigs, maybe due to a setting in my options.

My honest answer is that I don't know what weight division GGG and Rolls fought in. Must've been a catchweight, is all I can figure. But my point remains. GGG was a career middleweight. No catchweights can erase that.

Besides... we seem to be boring and/or bothering another Saddo'er who has NEVER gone on endless, tiring, nauseating tirades in the forum before.

No sireee.

Sideline pot-shooting is sooooo fukking predictable...

[TIC]

You know what, bro?

I was going to leave it there. But I'm gonna say what I should've said a long time ago.

From your sig (which I had to log out to see), I gather that... "The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career"... is an exact quote. I'll take your word for it, 'cause I can't be bothered to go dredging through old posts.

Let me give you a free lesson in adult conversational arguments, and/or logical thinking.

Had I said...

"GGG fought at 160 in every single one of his fights."

Or... "GGG never weighed in at more than 160 for any of his fights."

You would've had a valid point.

But the statement that GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career, is a true statement that is understood as such by most adult-filled audiences, who understand the true meaning of a statement.

The use of "160" is synonymous with saying "middleweight." So I could've just as well said... "The fact is GGG has fought at middleweight for his entire career."

The thing is... you KNOW what the fuck I mean. The fact you're picking at one fight where he weighed 163 is pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

The fact that this even merits discussion is pretty pathetic also.

But hey... you're a COVID denier. So I don't expect any of this to actually get through.

i've just got one question for you. answer it honestly & i'll delete my signature & never mention your made up fact again. because there can only be one answer. one will confirm your fact is in fact correct. the only will show your fact is incorrect. what weight division was ggg v steve rolls fought within at the time it happened, middleweight or super middleweight?

To be brutally frank... and I'm being as truthful as I can be... the whole thing doesn't even bother me that much. I've had a lot worse arguments on here. In addition, I know you didn't bring it up. Your sig just happened to be mentioned. Plus I don't see sigs, maybe due to a setting in my options.

My honest answer is that I don't know what weight division GGG and Rolls fought in. Must've been a catchweight, is all I can figure. But my point remains. GGG was a career middleweight. No catchweights can erase that.

Besides... we seem to be boring and/or bothering another Saddo'er who has NEVER gone on endless, tiring, nauseating tirades in the forum before.

No sireee.

Sideline pot-shooting is sooooo fukking predictable...

you almost did it. yes ggg v steve rolls was at a catchweight but catchweights are fought within a division, they are normally not their own divisions. yes i agree ggg was a career middleweight. that is not the same thing as saying the fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career. who cares if others are board. saddo will tell us otherwise. so second time at the golden ticket. spicoli, did you want to jump in & try to give titofan a hand? you were trying to defend the made up fact after all. master? it is puzzling to see boxing fans struggling over such a simple trivia question. what weight division was ggg v steve rolls fought within at the time it happened, middleweight or super middleweight?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

You know what, bro?

I was going to leave it there. But I'm gonna say what I should've said a long time ago.

From your sig (which I had to log out to see), I gather that... "The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career"... is an exact quote. I'll take your word for it, 'cause I can't be bothered to go dredging through old posts.

Let me give you a free lesson in adult conversational arguments, and/or logical thinking.

Had I said...

"GGG fought at 160 in every single one of his fights."

Or... "GGG never weighed in at more than 160 for any of his fights."

You would've had a valid point.

But the statement that GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career, is a true statement that is understood as such by most adult-filled audiences, who understand the true meaning of a statement.

The use of "160" is synonymous with saying "middleweight." So I could've just as well said... "The fact is GGG has fought at middleweight for his entire career."

The thing is... you KNOW what the fuck I mean. The fact you're picking at one fight where he weighed 163 is pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

The fact that this even merits discussion is pretty pathetic also.

But hey... you're a COVID denier. So I don't expect any of this to actually get through.

i've just got one question for you. answer it honestly & i'll delete my signature & never mention your made up fact again. because there can only be one answer. one will confirm your fact is in fact correct. the only will show your fact is incorrect. what weight division was ggg v steve rolls fought within at the time it happened, middleweight or super middleweight?

To be brutally frank... and I'm being as truthful as I can be... the whole thing doesn't even bother me that much. I've had a lot worse arguments on here. In addition, I know you didn't bring it up. Your sig just happened to be mentioned. Plus I don't see sigs, maybe due to a setting in my options.

My honest answer is that I don't know what weight division GGG and Rolls fought in. Must've been a catchweight, is all I can figure. But my point remains. GGG was a career middleweight. No catchweights can erase that.

Besides... we seem to be boring and/or bothering another Saddo'er who has NEVER gone on endless, tiring, nauseating tirades in the forum before.

No sireee.

Sideline pot-shooting is sooooo fukking predictable...

Hope you're not referring to me because I think it's funny and I was just trying to be humorous about it. I don't care how many threads you guys want to bring it up in. It was just my way of being or let's say having some camaraderie all around

[TIC]

Wow.

You still harping on that shit, bro? (LMAO)

The only "silly" and "ridiculous" aspects here are a defense of Canelo dragging a CAREER middleweight up to 168 for the first time ever. A career middleweight, mind you, who was totally over the hill at 40 years of age. A career middleweight who got blatantly ROBBED in his 1st fight with Canelo... and decides to try it again... in VEGAS, still.

The silly and ridiculous part is using the technicality of one fight at 163 to somehow make the argument that there is no weight or size advantage for Canelo.

You see... when a person is reduced to picking at an insignificant, shitty detail such as that one... to make a point... not only is it silly and ridiculous. It's downright embarrassing and pathetic.

So we'll work on your "I Was Right" trophy... while secretly chuckling at your argument that, because Golovkin fought at 163 ONE TIME... that it somehow makes your defense of Canelo valid.

Will a trophy suffice?
Maybe a plaque or something?
How about an autographed picture of me saying "You're right"?

I'm all about pleasing my fellow Saddo'ers.

harping? i wasn't the one who started the discussion on my signature. i am just reply to posts on the forum. this has nothing to do with canelo bringing ggg up in weight, as i have told you several times before. it has to do with you making up facts. i am using 163 to show your made up fact is wrong. the only point i'm making is that you made up a fact, that was wrong & that you contradicted your own fact as well. no trophy needed. no plaque or something. i'll settle for you conceding that you made up a fact that was incorrect & contradicted the fact you made up. i'm happy your all about pleasing