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    Default Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!

    The fight should have been stopped in the 9th , that referee should never go near a title fight again.
    Lets face facts here.

    Wvlad an old fighter who didn't like to get hit. yawn fest.
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    Wilder without his punch is a club fighter, a stumbling drunk has more technique.

    As i said Usyk will hit fury more than anyone , and let us not forget Usyk is 37 years old.

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    Default Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!

    I've rattled on for years about a quote Chris Eubank came out with called the killing time. Essentially knowing when the fight can be won and lost and being the one who recognises the presence of the killing time.

    Usyk understands that more then anyone. The Joshua rematch when it looked like AJ was going to impose himself down the stretch. Usyk came out and took the wind out of his sails. Here it was even after 6 rounds with Fury having his most dominant round in the 6th. Usyk then went up a gear again and had the fight won in round 9 and 10. His awareness of what's going on around him and his ability to react and get done what needs to get done is second to none.

    Fury thinks he won the fight. Par for the course. Pride, ego? Whatever it is he needs to let go of that and be honest with himself. He was second best and extremely lucky he didn't get stopped on his feet or cleaned out proper. The definition of madness and all that. If he doesn't acknowledge that he has work to do to turn this around in a rematch, he'll probably get taken out in style.

    That said. Can anyone really seeing this being run back in October without a hitch?

    A strange dynamic to this one. One of the rare occasions where I can't help by root for the away fighter. This was amplified by that mouthy cunt John laughing at Usyk when he thought he'd been cut by a clash of heads.
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    Default Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!

    Usyk is so good he defeated Fury twice in the same fight.
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    Default Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!

    Just watched it again totally sober.

    Had Fury 2/3 up going into the eighth. Usyk by 1/2 clearly the right call. Basically the 9th round decided the fight.

    Surprised at Fury not stepping it up when he clearly had his man hurt in the middle rounds.

    I'll say it now I don't think we'll see him in the ring again. Can't see him lifting himself to come back from this.

    Great fight though and not what I was expecting.
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    Surprised at those saying the fight should have been stopped in the 9th.

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    Default Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Surprised at those saying the fight should have been stopped in the 9th.

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    No, ref did the right thing and gave a count. If there was more time Usyk could have finished him but there wasn't and Fury somehow recovered. Fury has amazing recuperative powers.
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    Just got to see an albeit dodgy video of the fight on youtube. I had Usyk winning by probably 5 points (4 rounds plus the 10-8 round) . I thought Fury could not have been in better shape and is a better fighter than I have given him credit for.
    But I do think Team Fury got their gameplan a touch wrong. I believe Fury should have tried much harder to to take control of the centre of the ring with more jabs following up with body shots and uppercuts.
    When he did that in the 5th and 6th rounds , he had his most success.
    I'm not saying he would have been able to do that , because Usyk is obviously a phenomenal Boxer with every card in the pack. But it just felt like the game plan was more about jab , move around the outskirts and use his reach to keep Usyk off, which was a touch too negative for me.
    While that will always keep you in the fight , it won't win you the fight. there comes a time when you have to take a risk.
    On a Final point, it is absolutely ok for Fury to call Usyk a Rabbit and a Sausage and a gappy toothed Middleweight because he has to go to war with the guy and find whatever he can to help him achieve the win.
    BUT, IT IS NOT OK for Brock to do the same! You don't have to go to war with this fellah.
    It comes across as pathetic , disrespectful and fucking childish and then renders any opinion you have on the fight as worthless.
    and then , when you've been made to look silly , you grudgingly say you were wrong and then try to justify your bullshit with excuses like
    "Fury didn't press hard enough" "the Wilder fights killed Fury" "Fury's Blood vessel went up into his head" Blah blah Bollocks.
    And it's not wild to think that Fury could have won the fight, but to go in balls deep like you've done, i really think you should calm down and take a month off to reflect exactly what nonsense you spout .
    i think it would be a breathe of fresh air for you (and us")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Surprised at those saying the fight should have been stopped in the 9th.

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    No, ref did the right thing and gave a count. If there was more time Usyk could have finished him but there wasn't and Fury somehow recovered. Fury has amazing recuperative powers.
    the ref saved tyson. if he was ruling the ropes kept him up why didn't he do it about five seconds before when tyson was in the same position on the other ropes? then there's about an extra seven seconds after the eight count finishes & the ref lets the time run out. i have no doubt that if it was oleksandr in the same position the fight would have been stopped. oleksandr losing early rounds is nothing new. those claiming oleksandr was getting beat up & hurt are exaggerating. he was wobbled in the sixth but nowhere near going down. oleksandr's chin should be celerated. tyson had close to forty pounds on him if not more come fight time. tyson gave everything he had & it still wasn't enough. the fight wasn't close. i think i had it eight rounds to four with the knockdown. tyson felt oleksandr's power in the first & second round & knew he could be hurt. the reason he didn't push more was because he was afraid of getting caught & hurt as evenually happened. oleksandr's never been about the money, it's always been about legacy for him, that's why he accepted the seventy thirty split. tyson will probably avoid the rematch & try to make the aj fight instead, or he'll just implode. put the big lump on suicide watch. tyson was clearly beaten & should have been stopped in a fight that he had almost everything in his favour. i'm not sure how he shows his face in public again after getting clowned by a middleweight
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    Watched it again and can't understand why Fury didn't TRY HARDER in rounds 4 5 and especially 6 when it honestly look like Usyk was taking too much punishment and his Spirit looked crushed and he was badly hurt several times by uppercuts and body shots. Fury s strategy was working very well up to that point and when he hit him with that uppercut in the sixth you can see that it broke something the way he winced and jumped back and wobbled. It definitely at that point was starting to look like a walk in the park and that Fury was just too big.

    So again I just cannot understand why he did not jump on him. He did not jump on him at all take advantage of this. It was like he deliberately let him off the hook. And I think it's clear that if he had knocked the Ukrainian out cold in the sixth round that we would be saying there is no need at all for any rematch. So did he stupidly think it would carry him to a decision and play it safe and then make it look like there was a great reason for the rematch in the clause? At one point in the 6th and It really looked like it wouldn't go more than another two rounds the way it was going.

    Very disappointing that Tyson Fury did not even try one little bit to finish the job when he had his man quite hurt especially in that sixth round. Very strange. As for the scoring, it was definitely fair but I could easily have seen this a draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Watched it again and can't understand why Fury didn't TRY HARDER in rounds 4 5 and especially 6 when it honestly look like Usyk was taking too much punishment and his Spirit looked crushed and he was badly hurt several times by uppercuts and body shots. Fury s strategy was working very well up to that point and when he hit him with that uppercut in the sixth you can see that it broke something the way he winced and jumped back and wobbled. It definitely at that point was starting to look like a walk in the park and that Fury was just too big.

    So again I just cannot understand why he did not jump on him. He did not jump on him at all take advantage of this. It was like he deliberately let him off the hook. And I think it's clear that if he had knocked the Ukrainian out cold in the sixth round that we would be saying there is no need at all for any rematch. So did he stupidly think it would carry him to a decision and play it safe and then make it look like there was a great reason for the rematch in the clause? At one point in the 6th and It really looked like it wouldn't go more than another two rounds the way it was going.

    Very disappointing that Tyson Fury did not even try one little bit to finish the job when he had his man quite hurt especially in that sixth round. Very strange. As for the scoring, it was definitely fair but I could easily have seen this a draw.
    He got battered by a middleweight.

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    Beanz, that was a fantastic post. Great writing and great analysis and I could not agree more. He is not as elusive as we had thought or at least some of us had thought and of course he does not hit as hard as it looked like he hit after his big knockout over Wilder. And yes he did fight his ass off and he even surprise me in a lot of ways. The only thing that I don't quite 100% agree with is that I think he was lazy and did not take his opponent seriously enough and by the sixth round he thought it would be a walk in the park and that was his other mistake, his laziness and his overconfidence and his cheesy Muhammad Ali impersonation

    I still think he could have done better to finish his opponent or throw more punches in the last 6 minutes but credit to the Alexander usyk for fighting a fantastic fight with such a huge size differential

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