Fury v Usyk is on.............!

[Master]

Surprised at those saying the fight should have been stopped in the 9th.

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No, ref did the right thing and gave a count. If there was more time Usyk could have finished him but there wasn't and Fury somehow recovered. Fury has amazing recuperative powers.

[Primo Carnera]

Just got to see an albeit dodgy video of the fight on youtube. I had Usyk winning by probably 5 points (4 rounds plus the 10-8 round) . I thought Fury could not have been in better shape and is a better fighter than I have given him credit for.
But I do think Team Fury got their gameplan a touch wrong. I believe Fury should have tried much harder to to take control of the centre of the ring with more jabs following up with body shots and uppercuts.
When he did that in the 5th and 6th rounds , he had his most success.
I'm not saying he would have been able to do that , because Usyk is obviously a phenomenal Boxer with every card in the pack. But it just felt like the game plan was more about jab , move around the outskirts and use his reach to keep Usyk off, which was a touch too negative for me.
While that will always keep you in the fight , it won't win you the fight. there comes a time when you have to take a risk.
On a Final point, it is absolutely ok for Fury to call Usyk a Rabbit and a Sausage and a gappy toothed Middleweight because he has to go to war with the guy and find whatever he can to help him achieve the win.
BUT, IT IS NOT OK for Brock to do the same! You don't have to go to war with this fellah.
It comes across as pathetic , disrespectful and fucking childish and then renders any opinion you have on the fight as worthless.
and then , when you've been made to look silly , you grudgingly say you were wrong and then try to justify your bullshit with excuses like
"Fury didn't press hard enough" "the Wilder fights killed Fury" "Fury's Blood vessel went up into his head" Blah blah Bollocks.
And it's not wild to think that Fury could have won the fight, but to go in balls deep like you've done, i really think you should calm down and take a month off to reflect exactly what nonsense you spout .
i think it would be a breathe of fresh air for you (and us")

[TIC]

Just got to see an albeit dodgy video of the fight on youtube.

here's a good copy if you still need it
https://ok.ru/video/8139132045829

[Beanz]

I haven't rewatched last nights fight, but I can't really see how you could have scored it for Fury. It was certainly close and I must give Fury much more credit than I did pre-fight. He turned up and despite his pre-fight BS made sure he was on his A-game all night. He had to be and he knew it.

The accolades for Fury's ability to survive do not paper over the cracks that have been exposed again and again and surely now nobody can deny that for a big man he is not the biggest hitter and nor is he the elusive ghost or defensive whizz he pretends to be. Trilogies with Wilder and Chisora make that abundantly clear.

The big man brought with him into the ring, echoes of Sullivan, Corbett and Mace. A flexibility and repertoire of fundamentals, tricks and combinations that makes all the bragging even more unnecessary. Fury's own over estimations and exaggerations seem to earn him a bit of short sightedness from pundits who forget to acknowledge the difficulty his not always brilliant opponents manage to negate in getting close enough to someone with such a huge reach advantage and clock him on the chin.

Usyk was the real summation though, of all that keeps fans watching the sometimes boringly predictable heavyweight title bouts, an always ready time bomb waiting to explode in the smallest of windows. He has absorbed so many of the styles that allowed previous heavyweights to etch their exploits onto the back pages, that he can sometimes utilise a handful of them in one round.

The idea that Usyk looked like a defeated fighter with his spirit broken at any point in the fight is laughable. Fury clearly hurt Usyk at points but the only really dominant one sided beat down happened before us all in round nine. In that momentous round Usyk showed his class, superior skills and ring-craft. He did everything but put a full stop on it and made Fury look like the smaller man. From that first big left ramming Fury's insults right back down his gobshite mouth, Usyk zipped up any escape routes and should be given way more credit for his finishing skills.

It wasn't that Fury was too tentative and failed to capitalize on his own successes. It was much more of a case that Usyk did not allow him the space or time to dictate things like he usually can. The mind games were pointless and Fury was not quick enough, mentally or physically to plot his own route to victory.

Great fight and one worthy of the undisputed title it bestowed upon the real champion. A man that conducted himself impeccably in the face of great ( and often classless) provocation. A calm Frazier to Fury's poor Ali impersonation, Usyk got his just reward for not letting the enormity of the opportunity distract him from the task in front of him.

[TIC]

i also want to thank oleksandr for showing that bridgerweight is a waste of time

[TIC]

Surprised at those saying the fight should have been stopped in the 9th.

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No, ref did the right thing and gave a count. If there was more time Usyk could have finished him but there wasn't and Fury somehow recovered. Fury has amazing recuperative powers.

the ref saved tyson. if he was ruling the ropes kept him up why didn't he do it about five seconds before when tyson was in the same position on the other ropes? then there's about an extra seven seconds after the eight count finishes & the ref lets the time run out. i have no doubt that if it was oleksandr in the same position the fight would have been stopped. oleksandr losing early rounds is nothing new. those claiming oleksandr was getting beat up & hurt are exaggerating. he was wobbled in the sixth but nowhere near going down. oleksandr's chin should be celerated. tyson had close to forty pounds on him if not more come fight time. tyson gave everything he had & it still wasn't enough. the fight wasn't close. i think i had it eight rounds to four with the knockdown. tyson felt oleksandr's power in the first & second round & knew he could be hurt. the reason he didn't push more was because he was afraid of getting caught & hurt as evenually happened. oleksandr's never been about the money, it's always been about legacy for him, that's why he accepted the seventy thirty split. tyson will probably avoid the rematch & try to make the aj fight instead, or he'll just implode. put the big lump on suicide watch. tyson was clearly beaten & should have been stopped in a fight that he had almost everything in his favour. i'm not sure how he shows his face in public again after getting clowned by a middleweight