Fury v Usyk is on.............!

[Big J]

Steve still trying to find ways to cope 😂
If Fury & yourself hadn't talked so much smack there wouldn't be so much embarrassment
Fury actually fought really well from rounds 4-7
Usyk's pressure & ability to adapt coupled with his gas tank was just too much
All the talk about Usyk getting beaten up are hyperbole
The only fighter at risk of getting KTFO was Fury
Fury got himself in his best condition in years & threw everything he had at Usyk
Unfortunately it wasn't enough
I don't think Fury has it in him to ever get back in the ring again in that condition
So I see him looking for easier tasks or chasing the biggest money
He might talk about fighting Usyk again but I think deep down he doesn't want that smoke ever again
Fury's last 2 fights have really damaged his image
Usyk has shown that some of the 6'3 heavyweights from the past would have done well against this era's Super-Heavies
All this talk about them being too big is just simply that... talk

[Memphis]

Just wanted to add. In a time when 'The best don't fight the best, not like the good old days' Which is utter bollocks. Usyk has cleaned house in two divisions. In 22 fights!! If you're good enough, it happens.

Also. Of all the Brits. I still think Chisora might have come closest to beating Usyk

[TIC]

If you're good enough, it happens.

Also. Of all the Brits. I still think Chisora might have come closest to beating Usyk

being good enough is not enough, the fighter's have to want it as well. the derek fight wasn't close. i just watched again recently & had oleksandr ahead by six points. the only one who's run oleksandr close is mairis

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Steve still trying to find ways to cope 😂
If Fury & yourself hadn't talked so much smack there wouldn't be so much embarrassment
Fury actually fought really well from rounds 4-7
Usyk's pressure & ability to adapt coupled with his gas tank was just too much
All the talk about Usyk getting beaten up are hyperbole
The only fighter at risk of getting KTFO was Fury
Fury got himself in his best condition in years & threw everything he had at Usyk
Unfortunately it wasn't enough
I don't think Fury has it in him to ever get back in the ring again in that condition
So I see him looking for easier tasks or chasing the biggest money
He might talk about fighting Usyk again but I think deep down he doesn't want that smoke ever again
Fury's last 2 fights have really damaged his image
Usyk has shown that some of the 6'3 heavyweights from the past would have done well against this era's Super-Heavies
All this talk about them being too big is just simply that... talk

Hey man, we're here for you. If you have any worries or troubles just let us know.

[Ivan Zhelezo]

Usyk is an all time great. Usyk had to push ref out of the way in 9th round. Ref was trying to aid Fury

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Tyson Fury has indicated that he will trigger the rematch clause in the contract for October. It remains to be seen whether he sticks to his words. He took a shellacking and you wonder if you would like some more of it. If the guy fights differently he can easily win the fight. He was easily winning by the 7th round it looked like a cakewalk. He was really cracking him and you could see the ukrainian start to crumble. A few more of those uppercuts and body shots and that would have been it.

Why Tyson Fury clowned around so much and backed up to the ropes imitating Muhammad Ali and taking unnecessary punches instead of staying in the center of the Ring and popping that ramrod jab into his face, is a mystery. Probably he was conserving energy. Fighting at that fast pace for a 6'9 270 lb behemoth will certainly run his battery down.

Next time he should fight more aggressively and I think he'll get him out of there in eight rounds. He just has to do the same thing he was doing for the first six rounds and the fight won't last 9. He has to go right at him and bomb him out.

The way he staggered back to the ropes in the 9th round reminded me of the way Muhammad Ali stack it back to the ropes against Fraser and shavers. It was almost choreographed. I don't know why he wanted to fight backing up. He's so huge he should have stood his ground.

Let's see if the rematch happens. The fight is definitely worthy of a rematch. It was a very exciting fight. We got what we wanted. A great prize fight. Two great fighters. One fought under his potential and the other one fought at his potential. If the one who fought under his potential fights at his potential next time, then Fury wins the fight

[Mark TKO]

definitely worth a rematch if he can raise himself - a big if for me.

Last thirty seconds of 9th aside you could have called it either way so why the hell not.

I can see a way he can win the rematch with a few changes - first of all get rid of his dad from the camp

[Master]

These were the official cards and all 3 judges had it close.

One had it 7-5 Usyk, other 7-5 Fury and third 6-6 draw but with knock down Usyk got decision.

Fury was winning the first half of the fight 4-2 rounds.

Usyk won 4 rounds unanimously 1st, 8, 9, and 10.

Fury won 4 rounds unanimously 5, 6, 7, and 12.

Round 2,3,4 and 11 were split by judges.

[Mark TKO]

It was close. The right man got the nod. We'd love to see a rematch.

For me when a fight is that close yet one fighter has been in serious trouble the other guy should be the winner.

When the bell rang I knew Fury hadn't won but wasn't sure usyk had.

I also felt like that Benn Eubank 2 and fury wilder 1.

[Big J]

Steve still trying to find ways to cope 😂
If Fury & yourself hadn't talked so much smack there wouldn't be so much embarrassment
Fury actually fought really well from rounds 4-7
Usyk's pressure & ability to adapt coupled with his gas tank was just too much
All the talk about Usyk getting beaten up are hyperbole
The only fighter at risk of getting KTFO was Fury
Fury got himself in his best condition in years & threw everything he had at Usyk
Unfortunately it wasn't enough
I don't think Fury has it in him to ever get back in the ring again in that condition
So I see him looking for easier tasks or chasing the biggest money
He might talk about fighting Usyk again but I think deep down he doesn't want that smoke ever again
Fury's last 2 fights have really damaged his image
Usyk has shown that some of the 6'3 heavyweights from the past would have done well against this era's Super-Heavies
All this talk about them being too big is just simply that... talk

Hey man, we're here for you. If you have any worries or troubles just let us know.

Well done for not hiding away after being so wrong
Like Elsa says "Let it Go" "Let it go"
Fury was humbled & his fans excuses are almost as bad as Wilders were

[Master]

The fight did not go the way many anticipated. Many thought it would be technical and even boring, but it was riveting and at times dramatic.

Usyk was the aggressor from the start and took the centre of the ring. He had Fury on the ropes forcing him to fight when many thought Fury would put the pressure as the bigger man.

Fury found success using his footwork, boxing skills, speed, creating space using his height and reach where he started to catch Usyk who nearly got stopped in round 6.

It was Usyk who came on stronger in the second half of the fight when many though Fury would as the bigger man and even stop his opponent.

Remarkably Usyk adjusted, forced through the pain, picked up the pace and landed quality punches that Fury could not avoid and was left stumbling across the ring.

Ref did the right thing and give a standing count and not stop it.

How Fury recuperated after that beating is beyond belief to win the last round on the judges cards.

The right man won so the points system works.

[Mark TKO]

A few around saying fury got schooled, not necessarily on this forum, that's utter bollocks.

[Denilson3.0]

20,000,001 actually



I pay for the internet so whatever it shows is free

Can you imagine Michael Buffer now ?

"And now. For thousands in attendance and MILLIONS illegally streaming around the world"

Wake up people... Do not be that frog that slowly boils to death... We let corporations take things that do not belong to them. When Radio and television came out, the waves belonged to the people. It's the people's collective air space. We give away our precious resources to these corporations... WE PAY TAXES to maintain those resources.

If you are putting on a production in a Park for Shakespeare, If I buy a ticket I can come in, but I can certainly look from where I am walking. NOW PAY ATTENTION! If you come into my place and demand to put the production on my roof you cannot forbid me from going to my roof to watch! They done been trying to convince people they add value for generations now! Our airways belong to us! I can try to receive anything I want in such air space.

Both men made an insane amount of money and all the ppl involved in the fight did too, yet they complain ? Of course, there'll be millions of illegal streams - How they expect ppl from the poorest countries to pay ?

Anyway........

Mr Tyson "No man born of his mothers !!!!!" Fury.

Really ?



Even William Wallace was shouting "Mercy"

So BIG John "The Fighting Man" Fury FINALLY got to work on Tyson's corner and it resulted in his first loss.



Pretty sure I heard John fury telling Tyson to "Hit him on the chin".....No Sh*t John. Shouting over Sugar Hill the whole fight was embarrassing and disrespectful. Tyson needs his dad for the training camps. John is a good motivator, a mouthpiece. Fury mentioned that his training regime improved significantly with his dad's return, describing it as militaristic. His dad isn't a yes-man; he'll push Fury and tell him when he's not training hard enough, unlike others who might be more reserved but they should rely on Sugar as his sole corner man.

Having said that, that was probably the best possible form Fury could put in at this stage and he knows it. He was bang up for this fight. He knew the threat Usyk presented and had 2x back to back training camps. Now it's a question of does he want or need that rematch money. Can he put in a better performance than that at this stage ? Fury now has the opportunity to avenge a loss. Which all great champions have done.

Also Fury is a businessman as much as a boxer these days. So he ain't turning down this 80M-100M Riyadh rematch. Sh^t with 9 kids in the house I'd imagine you are trying to invent reasons to gtfo of the house so a 3mo camp is a great excuse to not be around.

As to the fight. Look all these big "Super Heavyweights"are terrified of imposing their size on a smaller opponent with decent skill. Scared of running into a counter, scared of actually getting out-boxed and made a fool of on the inside, scared of running out of gas.

The hell is the point of being 6'5 and 240+ if you're too scared to actually use all that mass to bully a smaller opponent ? It's ridiculous. Everyone wants to just jab, cover up, back away, throw a few flurries, clinch, jab, clinch , repeat and they refuse to open up or take chances.

You’ll only beat Usyk by doing two things

1. Power Punching
2. Pressure

The boxer to beat Usyk is somebody who grinds him down, on the front foot looking to get up close and force him to work. Not looking for a short war but a longer war of attrition. A Chavez Sr type of fighter.

Three heavyweights would be a nightmare for Usyk

• Joe Frazier
• Mike Tyson
• Rocky Marciano

These pressure fighters are always edging in and looking to corner you. You make three steps to his one staying away.

Tyson's insane footspeed made him very quick at closing distance and it's was his footspeed that stopped him getting nailed on the way on in, not some spectacular head movement. Where as Frazier's constant head movement and variation of his guard were in some-ways technically superior than Tyson's pressure fighting. Marciano was somebody grinds you down on the front foot looking to get up close and force you to work. That's how you deal with Usyk.

Usyk has always had more issues with smaller pressure fighters that come in LOW than he has when he has an elevated target he can take aim at. Derek Chisora probably showed the way you beat Usyk and Chisora is more will than skill. Usyk not only effortlessly deals with much larger fighters, but in some cases he excels when fighting them. You have to fight him on the front foot.

Do you think Usyk would of pushed Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe around the ring ? Even guys who aren't ATG but were good at their peaks. Do you think Usyk would of pushed David Tua, Tommy Morrison, Ron Lyle, Ike Ibeabuchi around the ring ?

Fight front foot, very aggressive and go to the body. Middle of the ring...Hagler-Hearns style. Prime Mike Tyson or David Tua would beat Usyk (IMO) Take him out in first 7 rounds. You have to go in there looking to KILL Usyk.

But to do this fighters have to up their Cardio against Usyk

1. If you can't run a 6 minute mile don't even think about fighting Usyk.
2. If you can't row 2000m in under 7 mins don't even think about fighting Usyk

Because the pace Usyk pushes takes even hardened men off their game and Usyk isn't a huge puncher but he can punch. He doesn't sit down on most of his punches and just makes contact. When he does punch with authority it comes as a surprise. I thought Usyk won the fight by one round. It was close but it's hard to erase the optics of a smaller guy beating a bigger man all over the ring, corner to corner, and the big guy never looking fully recovered after the beating.

The Usyk v Fury fight gave more credibility to AJ's efforts against Usyk and AJ fought a fresher, younger Usyk. Usyk doesn't have the same legs. He fought this fight like the Dubois one. Pressure without a step back from the first second. He's now a just as much of swarmer as he is a boxer. He know uses guts and toughness a lot more to overwhelm his heavier opponent than he does his skills.

And the controversy in the 9th ? I can see both sides.

1. Never in my decades of watching boxing have I seen a situation like that, ever. A fighter unable to defend himself is about to get finished; the referee steps in to stop the last devastating blow and save the defenceless fighter from further punishment—but he gives an eight-count instead of waving the fight off.
2. But Paulie and Chris Algeri said that the fans forgot the rules because the refs forgot the rules. If a fighter falls into the ropes, the Ref is well within their right to issue a standing 8 count. The ropes held them up. In fact, what the ref did was commendable because another ref could have jumped in too soon and stopped it.

And I gotta say what was the deal with Tyson shorts ?



Its not like they moved up, they were practically pulled up to his damn armpits all fight. But then his boobs hang where his stomach should be. And I'm guessing his stomach is hanging somewhere near his balls.

I used to read "Asterix the Gaul" books as a kid



Tyson Fury reminded me of Asterix's sidekick Obelix



I also used to read TinTin Books books



In terms of knowledge I'm a JEDI on the TinTin and Asterix books series......that would without question be my specialist subject on BBC Mastermind. Little childhood Segway there

But ​I noticed Tyson's shorts myself. It definitely gave him an advantage. The protector was pulled up just high as the trunks, which made it more difficult for Usyk to actually hurt Fury with body shots. It also illustrates how hypocritical Fury and Warren are, when you think of all the shit they threw at Usyk for (according to them) wearing his protector too high during the DD fight.

And Fury saying post fight "Usyk won coz people felt sorry for his country at war"

Post fight interviews for guys that have lost to Usyk have been so terrible.

He just cant have a normal post fight speech from his opponent can he ?

Salute to Usyk, he earned that one with no help. Height and reach disadvantage and being around 2 stone lighter is fucking incredible. Being a 2 weight undisputed is impressive. But when that second weight class is heavyweight it puts you into a different stratosphere. It’s the uncapped division. The division where you might have to slay a giant. Neither Crawford or Inoue have had to slay a giant. Usyk had to slay 2 of them. Legend.