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    Default Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!

    Finally able to do a proper watch and it was very much the entertaining ebb and flow scrap talked about. Big picture I ended up at 115-112 Usyk when all was said and done. Some random things that stuck out were how bothered Tyson was early on specifically with the 1st round shot to the nose. Not sure if/when a break occurred but it was clear it was a problem. Also how Usyk was corking the left and was his key punch from beginning to end. He almost turns the punch sideways like a chop and puts some stiff on it. Also surprised me how consciously Fury conceded ring space and tried/ was forced to ropes or corner. After six rounds I had it all even up with Fury coming to life and notching a straight run of 5,6,7 and having Usyk in a bad way with the whipping right upper to body. He was fluid and looked to be on his way. But the left of Usyk was ever present and had him taking a run of 8,9,10,11 with the ninth being a nightmare for Fury. He was rebounding off the ropes wobbled like a prime wwf wrestler and could have very well been counted more than once that round as ropes held him up. Initially the ref took a lot of stick but having a full look at the ruled KD, his hands were pretty tied in the instant. Had he called the fight the outrage would have been deafening in the aftermath. Not to say Fury wasn't concussed and out on his feet but if we give merit to the scale and magnitude of the match it would have been messy and taken from the ultimate moment. But also by ruling the KD he called off Usyk from a likely follow up and tko. Fury was bent and slumped and wide open. It's a very ambiguous rule, the ropes holding a fighter up and another case by case that a ref has to make in the split second. Going way back I guess this is why I see some cases for the standing 8 count still being used. But anyway. Thought Fury did well to steady and press back in the final round taking that one. All in all an outstanding contest and wherever you fall in fandom the mutual respect at end was long overdue. Have to admit I was convinced they would rob Usyk and while 1 judge tried looking at the fight on whole Usyk for me was a clear winner, though arguably tightly well contested. Judges got it right and sets up a rematch perfectly regardless of what happens with the ibf strap being vacated or even stripped. On aside and a random complaint I came away with...can we not have 1001 people rush the ring ffs. I don't think I've ever seen a ring THAT packed corner to corner in an immediate aftermath. In was bonkers ! and honestly took away just a bit from the center focus...literally...being on the two championship fighters who just went thru it. And I really need less of this Turki worship being honest. Having his own intro pre fight, post fight and ring center putting the t shirts of sanctioning bodies on Usyk and handing belts out. Wtf is that?! I get it the powerbroker $$ host and all but no ring should be that crowded and overshadowed. Again, it's about the fighters. Great fight!

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    oleksandr rung tyson bell so hard he was wishing everyone happy new year. turki released the fight on youtibe for anyone wanting to rewatch
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    They are saying Tyson broke his nose in the 7th round and was bothered by it.

    Do not know if Usyk did have a broken jaw.
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    I noticed something bothering him on a rewatch. Assumed just blood as he kept wiping it. Was around the time he lost his rhythm.

    Actually watched extended highlights again earlier. You can see why these two guys are seen as the best in the division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They are saying Tyson broke his nose in the 7th round and was bothered by it.

    Do not know if Usyk did have a broken jaw.
    I was the one who said it first. I said it live in the stream. You could see the punch sent a strong effect up the artery that goes from the nose underneath the eye. That's why people get black eyes when they get punched in the nose or the nose breaks I should say. If it wasn't for that one punch on the tip of his nose he would not have been affected like that and the ninth round would never have taken place the way it did.

    But that's boxing one punch can change everything. Credit to the Ukrainian for fighting a guy as gigantic as the Gypsy King and beating him even though I have it scored 114 to 114 a draw. There's no question that it was a draw if you score the second round even 10 to 10 and if you give Tyson Fury 3 4 5 6 7 and 12 and you score the 9th round 10 to 8 and give the rest of the rounds to the Ukrainian one eight eight nine 10 11 then it is a draw and that is the way it should have been scored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They are saying Tyson broke his nose in the 7th round and was bothered by it.

    Do not know if Usyk did have a broken jaw.
    I was the one who said it first. I said it live in the stream. You could see the punch sent a strong effect up the artery that goes from the nose underneath the eye. That's why people get black eyes when they get punched in the nose or the nose breaks I should say. If it wasn't for that one punch on the tip of his nose he would not have been affected like that and the ninth round would never have taken place the way it did.

    But that's boxing one punch can change everything. Credit to the Ukrainian for fighting a guy as gigantic as the Gypsy King and beating him even though I have it scored 114 to 114 a draw. There's no question that it was a draw if you score the second round even 10 to 10 and if you give Tyson Fury 3 4 5 6 7 and 12 and you score the 9th round 10 to 8 and give the rest of the rounds to the Ukrainian one eight eight nine 10 11 then it is a draw and that is the way it should have been scored.
    It’s a big word “if” isn’t it? If my Auntie had bollocks she’d be my uncle. And if Granny had wheels, she’d be a motorbike!
    Now I tried to be super generous to Fury and had it 115-113 to Usyk. I gave a 10-10 for the 2nd playing Devils advocate, but Usyk won the 3rd . And that’s where your logic falls down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    They are saying Tyson broke his nose in the 7th round and was bothered by it.

    Do not know if Usyk did have a broken jaw.
    Neither of them broke anything.

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    Fury hairline nose fracture, ruptured blood vessels under the eye, effects equilibrium and vision, thus the 9th round happened. Usyk got lucky and hit the very tip of his nose where that blood vessel ends, causing that subcutaneous hemmhorage up to and under the eye of Fury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Fury hairline nose fracture, ruptured blood vessels under the eye, effects equilibrium and vision, thus the 9th round happened. Usyk got lucky and hit the very tip of his nose where that blood vessel ends, causing that subcutaneous hemmhorage up to and under the eye of Fury.
    periorbital ecchymosis. are dark blue or purple bruises They occur when tiny blood vessels under the eyes bleed into the skin, usually after an injury to the tip of the nose.

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    It does make me smile Fury camp moaning about the verdict, when Ngannou beat him and so big John McDermott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Fury hairline nose fracture, ruptured blood vessels under the eye, effects equilibrium and vision, thus the 9th round happened. Usyk got lucky and hit the very tip of his nose where that blood vessel ends, causing that subcutaneous hemmhorage up to and under the eye of Fury.
    I think it was bothering him as early as the 1st. Not sure about breaks and medical reports, if any have actually been released, but you can clearly see him start pawing at it in round one after Usyk sticks him a few times. Also appears there was no broken jaw for Usyk as he held a press conference just fine. Then again maybe that's just his mettle

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    other fighters have won fights with worse injuries than tyson. tyson had to be saved by the ref or he would have been knocked out by a middleweight who wears an earring
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Fury hairline nose fracture, ruptured blood vessels under the eye, effects equilibrium and vision, thus the 9th round happened. Usyk got lucky and hit the very tip of his nose where that blood vessel ends, causing that subcutaneous hemmhorage up to and under the eye of Fury.
    Yep he got lucky. Lucky punch . I thought that’s what boxers are supposed to do ? But no , he just closed his eyes and got lucky.
    Funny because the punch stats say that Usyk got lucky a lot, he was twice as accurate as Fury.
    What’s the saying? The harder I work, the more luck I get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Fury hairline nose fracture, ruptured blood vessels under the eye, effects equilibrium and vision, thus the 9th round happened. Usyk got lucky and hit the very tip of his nose where that blood vessel ends, causing that subcutaneous hemmhorage up to and under the eye of Fury.
    Yep he got lucky. Lucky punch . I thought that’s what boxers are supposed to do ? But no , he just closed his eyes and got lucky.
    Funny because the punch stats say that Usyk got lucky a lot, he was twice as accurate as Fury.
    What’s the saying? The harder I work, the more luck I get.

    Lucky?
    Definitely had his eyes closed if you see it from the reverse camera angle. Anyway you've got quite the audacity posting in that manner especially after you were so quote unquote generous from deep down in your heart to try to give Fury the benefit of the doubt and some of the rounds. That type of generosity cannot be overlooked at all. commendable!

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