Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post

And I want to say something else about AB.

You know I'm a year older than AB. He's 39.

When I was a lot younger and stupid, I tried PEDS (light dosage and light stuffs, like deca, test, oxandrolone, stanozolol and Metandienone) of course not all in 1 cycle. I have like 3-4 cycle in total but I pretty much know most stuffs, and I know how it works. I have to say that I've ALWAYS been suspicious of AB. Nobody can out macho him. He's just a tank. His strength is not normal.

His last two fights were postponed due to "injury"





And then he had his testosrone controversy



I just don't buy that at the 39 years old, you will somehow have "elevated" levels especially for this, and HGH (Human Growth Hormone) is one of the key stuffs for athlete to take. Body naturally can produce a lot of stuffs, but your test is going to be hit when you hit 32-33, and especially at your late 30s. I don't know much about the HGH, as it's dangerous, but the benefits for athletes are huge. This is just ain't a good look. Let's be real he was most likely cycling off,

But it could mean anything. It could very well means Beterbiev is juicing like mad, and he mismanaged his cycle, and that's why he delays fight and they slipped up with the cycle/masking agents etc.

Or it could very well be just an unusual case, and Beterbiev is clean as a whistle.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was roided out of his mind. Any big outlier who fights like a wrecking ball should be suspect.

If a fighter has atypically high levels of endogenous hormones, then you would expect them to continually test at an "abnormal" level. Sudden spikes are only indicative of a mistimed cycle. And somehow magically his next few test, somehow was in the norm

Russia's Olympic teams were doping like nuts when Beterbiev competed for them, so I'd be very, very surprised if he wasn't on the sauce by then. Also unlikely that he went cold turkey as a pro and was unfortunate enough to have an "atypical" result. The only way to have higher than normal Testosterone and HGH levels at 39 years old is by being on Peds. There is no way to have high level of test at 39 years old, and be natural.

Trust me I know.
As Master has said, innocent until proven guilty. But I'm on board with all of this. There is something seriously suspect about him. OK, You can't condemn a man for looking like a stone cold killer who is carved out of granite. But fucking hell.

I said exactly the same things months ago. Getting stronger and fitter as he gets older. Having to postpone multiple fights back to back due to injuries. Both suspect.

The atypical thing. It's still a fucking mystery to me. Questions..

Prior to Beterbiev/Smith. Can anyone recall reading or hearing about a fighter returning an atypical result? As in it becoming worthy of mention publicly?

Since Beterbiev/Smith. Have there been a glut of further A typical results that have been worthy of public consumption?

How the fuck does an atypical finding differ from someone blatantly taking PEDS? Because post Beterbiev/Smith, every Tom Dick and Harry became an expert in atypical results and what they meant. But every expert explanation I read, sounded exactly like someone taking, and then cycling off of a drug.

Again. Innocent until proven guilty. And there's no real accusation of guilt to be fair. But the whole Beterbiev setup strikes me as suspect.