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    Default Re: Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Truthfully, we fucking deserve it.
    there is only a small percentage of real hardcore fans that support boxing at all levels. take your jake catterall example, the thread only has twenty three replies, the tim tszyu v bakhram murtazaliev thread only got twenty four & then tim gets shat on for taking on an unbeaten champion. there are at least a dozen good quality fights between now & the end of the year but most won't get much interest & replies
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    Topic could send me on quite the rant . But Just getting home and I want a stress-free night. Boxing has become a case of short attention span theater in gaps now. The term "build" is now turned on its head as some bad thing. By build I mean co main cards that used to be the norm monthly. Future opponents on the same night, not taking tin cans but decent opposition with the future big fight on the line if they were beat. I don't think it's as much a case of fights being forced on us that we don't want...it's the fact that newer fans and some old heads have arrived at the point where we'll settle...and excuse away...anything. We fall for it all. It's almost become like our politics. A lot of fans now want it quick, easy and tbh without putting much thought/research into it. 154 is a great recent example of this imo. 3 of the biggest talents...Crawford, Ortiz and Tszyu all went in with what were actually talented though "unknown or obscure" high level opponents in Murtazaliev, Madrimov and Bohachuk. And they all took their lumps admittedly to varying degrees. Tszyu getting the worst of it . But all I heard post fight in some places including what is the mental petri dish for boxing, twitter, is how they were exposed . And not much of "hey wow these fookers can actually fight and what new discoveries...credit to Bud, Ortiz and Tim for facing threats". Nope. Ok of center topic a bit

    Fans just need to stop excusing nonsense match ups. It's not new and often the biggest names set the patterns for younger talents to follow. And they do. Tune up fights and showcases become the norm for supposed faces of the sport. You just have to stand for something as a fan. Even if it's your favorite fighter. And ffs stop overrating belts, that has tons to do with it.

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    Default Re: Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Truthfully, we fucking deserve it.
    there is only a small percentage of real hardcore fans that support boxing at all levels. take your jake catterall example, the thread only has twenty three replies, the tim tszyu v bakhram murtazaliev thread only got twenty four & then tim gets shat on for taking on an unbeaten champion. there are at least a dozen good quality fights between now & the end of the year but most won't get much interest & replies
    Proves my point completely.
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    Default Re: Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see?

    Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see ?

    YUP

    The fights people REALLY want to see, they have to let it "marinate". Floyd with his PAC fight "marinated" boxing to the max.

    The marination of boxing has really fked up the fights ppl want to see

    But to be fair it's not all Floyd's fault (far from it) the explosion of multi soup titles eg Super, Interim, Silver, Regular WBA Middleweight champ has not helped. Turki has shaken boxing up a bit for the good. But even Turki has not managed to get the 3 biggest draws in boxing (Inoue, Canelo and Tank) to fight on his shows
    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 11-02-2024 at 01:03 PM.

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    Default Re: Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see?

    turki has done well to get some of these fights done that wouldn't have without the saudi's funding, artur v dmitry & oscar collazo v thammanoon niyomtrong are two that come to mind. not everything he's been involved with can be applauded, as some of the fights on his cards have been ones no one wanted to see
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    Default Re: Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    But even Turki has not managed to get (Inoue) to fight on his shows
    he's apparently got inoue now
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    Default Re: Are fans getting fights forced on us that we do not want to see?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    But even Turki has not managed to get (Inoue) to fight on his shows
    he's apparently got inoue now
    Never thought I'd see the day were the pound for pound baddest fighter in the world is a 5ft 5, 122 pound Asian dude.

    Respect. Turki has got the main man IMO


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    it seems like a really good sponsorship for team naoya. i don't think he is required to fight over there, although he may, just appearances & promotions
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    Frank Warren will join DAZN in April 2025 and leave TNT Sport. Do not know what this will mean for boxing fans.

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