The Nasty Weather Thread

[TIC]

with things heating up it makes it cold enough to snow. make it make sense

Climate change means

what does global warming mean?

Climate change is the correct term that was previously used for global warning because it is more accurate and stop any confusion.

so the original term global warming wasn't correct? what was the claim of global warming? is the claim of global warming not a thing anymore?

[TitoFan]

Rather than talk about "claims" or something being a "thing", I'll just put this here.






Not telling you to believe it. Not telling you how to interpret it. Not even telling you to look at it.

It's just there, and you can draw your own conclusions.

[Beanz]

The term climate change encompasses global warming. Global warming is one of the symptoms of climate change. We have always had climate change ( Ice ages etc) but generally when people refer to global warming they are talking about the impact of man in the heating of the earths surface temperature. Remember it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. It really is not that hard to grasp.

[TIC]

The term climate change encompasses global warming. Global warming is one of the symptoms of climate change. We have always had climate change ( Ice ages etc) but generally when people refer to global warming they are talking about the impact of man in the heating of the earths surface temperature. Remember it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. It really is not that hard to grasp.

yes the climate does change

the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

i'm happy to entertain bullshit but i don't have to accept it. if it's really not that hard to grasp can you show me the process you used or somewhere i can go to test, so i can verify for myself, to create snow by increasing the temperature & warming the area. i'll wait

[Beanz]

The term climate change encompasses global warming. Global warming is one of the symptoms of climate change. We have always had climate change ( Ice ages etc) but generally when people refer to global warming they are talking about the impact of man in the heating of the earths surface temperature. Remember it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. It really is not that hard to grasp.

yes the climate does change

the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

i'm happy to entertain bullshit but i don't have to accept it. if it's really not that hard to grasp can you show me the process you used or somewhere i can go to test, so i can verify for myself, to create snow by increasing the temperature & warming the area. i'll wait

Increasing temperature and warming actually are the perfect recipe for snow. Too cold and you don't get snow. Global warming equals an atmosphere that holds more water vapor, deeper low pressures and more full on winds and storms which in the winter leads to snowstorms. The jet stream ends up bringing aortic winds south along with hurricanes, floods etc. The arctic is warming at a faster rate than the rest of the planet weakening the polar vortex which distorts in such a way that you get sudden bursts of extreme weather like the recent snow.

This is the problem with you being so terrified and arrogant that you can't accept the idea of anyone else having expertise in subjects you don't. I am no meteorologist but there are enough of them and enough other scientific experts around that their own self regulation and embracing of scientific principles means I don't have to entertain the childish idea of having to verify every fact for myself or carry out experiments when I do not even have a tenth of their knowledge.

You probably have very little direct experience of snow but in Europe, as moderate as it is, we all know that in the Alps or the Scottish Highlands etc, it can often be too cold to snow, but just a few degrees rise in temperature the next day will mean heavy snowfall. So we know increase warming and a rise in temperature actually does equal snow.

Just because you live in a bubble, that does not mean we have discount our real world verifiable experience in order to protect your daft superstitious beliefs.

[TIC]

you're the only one with a belief larry. that's a great explanation. unfortunately it doesn't match reality. global warming has been mentioned as far back as the mid seventies. the claim of global warming is that the average temperature is increasing & the planet is warming up. this is why you only have an explanation & can't show a process where you can create snow when the temperature is increasing & warming. that is daft. weather extremes are nothing new, the frequency & cause of these extremes are up for discussion. unfortunately for you, you are not able to prove your belief

[TIC]

spock was pushing this bullshit in the seventies

[TIC]

Rather than talk about "claims" or something being a "thing", I'll just put this here.






Not telling you to believe it. Not telling you how to interpret it. Not even telling you to look at it.

It's just there, and you can draw your own conclusions.

nah let's stick with claims, this is from chatgpt:


does your little chart have the temperature for when spicoli's area had snow? so back to my original statement "with things heating up it makes it cold enough to snow" if earth's temperature is increasing & the planet is warming how does it make it cold enough to snow in a place spicoli says he hasn't seen snow in for forty years? remember the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

[TitoFan]

Rather than talk about "claims" or something being a "thing", I'll just put this here.






Not telling you to believe it. Not telling you how to interpret it. Not even telling you to look at it.

It's just there, and you can draw your own conclusions.

nah let's stick with claims, this is from chatgpt:


does your little chart have the temperature for when spicoli's area had snow? so back to my original statement "with things heating up it makes it cold enough to snow" if earth's temperature is increasing & the planet is warming how does it make it cold enough to snow in a place spicoli says he hasn't seen snow in for forty years? remember the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

LMFAO at "your little chart."

Typical butthurt response when presented with data and facts.





Also... it's not "my little chart" (LMFAO).

It's actually NASA, NOAA... and a handful of other insignificant agencies' "little chart."



Damn, you're easy to get to.

[TIC]

Rather than talk about "claims" or something being a "thing", I'll just put this here.






Not telling you to believe it. Not telling you how to interpret it. Not even telling you to look at it.

It's just there, and you can draw your own conclusions.

nah let's stick with claims, this is from chatgpt:


does your little chart have the temperature for when spicoli's area had snow? so back to my original statement "with things heating up it makes it cold enough to snow" if earth's temperature is increasing & the planet is warming how does it make it cold enough to snow in a place spicoli says he hasn't seen snow in for forty years? remember the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

LMFAO at "your little chart."

Typical butthurt response when presented with data and facts.

Also... it's not "my little chart" (LMFAO).

It's actually NASA, NOAA... and a handful of other insignificant agencies' "little chart."

Damn, you're easy to get to.

you may not have created the chart but you presented it here hence your. so again does your little chart have the temperature for when spicoli's area had snow? & can you show the temperature where spicoli is on the days before it started snowing & show an increase in temperature & warming when snowing began? i'll wait

typical of you to avoid requests to prove your belief. you are the last person who should be talking about facts as you make your facts own up

show me the process you used or somewhere i can go to test, so i can verify for myself, to create snow by increasing the temperature & warming the area. waiting... you & i both know you can't but you'll stamp your feet & have a little tantrum for a few posts, none of which will provide any proof as usual before skulking away with your tail between your legs as you always do, failing to provide any proof for your belief

[TitoFan]

If you really believe that the fact that it snowed in Spicoli's neighborhood, thus proving that global warming doesn't exist.... I'm sorry but you're more of a moron than I thought.

[TitoFan]

... and I already thought you were quite the moron.

[Spicoli]

Rather than talk about "claims" or something being a "thing", I'll just put this here.






Not telling you to believe it. Not telling you how to interpret it. Not even telling you to look at it.

It's just there, and you can draw your own conclusions.

nah let's stick with claims, this is from chatgpt:


does your little chart have the temperature for when spicoli's area had snow? so back to my original statement "with things heating up it makes it cold enough to snow" if earth's temperature is increasing & the planet is warming how does it make it cold enough to snow in a place spicoli says he hasn't seen snow in for forty years? remember the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

Eh got things a little mixed up there bud, I wasn't referring to current location when I said it's been 40 years since seeing snow like this.

" ...Yeh, this is normal. Haven't seen snow like this in literally 40 years...in Richmond..." And the this is normal part was sarcasm. As in this, the amount, has not happened and is not normal.

I don't have any charts or graphs but since I made the cast, I can say from firsthand experience in actually living here...the extremes are tying or breaking records. In 1895 there was 8 inches I believe. Two weeks ago we had 10.5. In July of 2023 we hit a record high temp of 105 degrees. The highest on record. There was a "feels like" temp of 115. Highest on record. 2024 here is officially recorded as the hottest summer on record with multiple 100 degree days in a row. Over the last couple of years there have been multiple days where dropping or increasing by 30-40 degrees in a single day or two have happened often. Again, the ying and yang of extreme changes are a real thing. And as talked about during hurricane seasons last year meteorologists have never witnessed that rapid intensification of a TS to a Cat3-4 in literally 24 hrs in the Gulf nor the erratic 90' change of course.

[TIC]

i agree the ying and yang of extreme changes is happening. the causes of these changes is up for discussion. these highs & lows & changes have been around as long as we've cared to take note

[TIC]

a few years old but where did the abc get this information to make this claim?

the official year book of the commonwealth of australia indicates different

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JUb...GD81UG9R6/view