RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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Why the infatuation with Michael Spinks??

I think there's something to be said for those old time (and new ones, too) champions that feel comfortable at one weight their entire careers.

Many fighters move up because they don't have the DISCIPLINE to make weight, so they take the lazy way out. Not saying that's the case of all of them... but some certainly do.

Many great champions of the past stayed at one weight their whole careers. Are we going to criticize them because they didn't jump up in weight to challenge bigger guys??

That is the new way of doing things, I guess. I'm old school.

Maybe it's all this jumping up 2 or 3 divisions looking for a money grab. It's turning boxing more into a circus than I care to think about.

Even the jumping itself.

Used to be guys would move up and GRADUALLY acclimate themselves to the new weight.

It's all crap, if you ask me.

michael spinks would have been a huge challenge for marvin

i think there's something to be said for those fighters that move up or down for challenges

"Not saying that's the case of all of them" exactly, some move up or down for challenges

many fighters have moved up or down for challenges. no one is criticizing anyone. boxing carries great risks. depending on the circumstances fighters can get a pass for not moving up or down for challenges

moving up or down in weight is not new. it's old school

"Maybe it's all this jumping up 2 or 3 divisions looking for a money grab"
or staying put in a division waiting on smaller guys that will bring bigger purses

"Used to be guys would move up and GRADUALLY acclimate themselves to the new weigh"
that's not how it used to be, there are too many to mention but did ray robinson gradually acclimate to before fighting jake or joey maxim? guys like harry greb, mickey walker, sam langford et cetera

"It's all crap, if you ask me"
all crap? nah moving up or down is common throughout the sports history right up until today

[TitoFan]

Why the infatuation with Michael Spinks??

I think there's something to be said for those old time (and new ones, too) champions that feel comfortable at one weight their entire careers.

Many fighters move up because they don't have the DISCIPLINE to make weight, so they take the lazy way out. Not saying that's the case of all of them... but some certainly do.

Many great champions of the past stayed at one weight their whole careers. Are we going to criticize them because they didn't jump up in weight to challenge bigger guys??

That is the new way of doing things, I guess. I'm old school.

Maybe it's all this jumping up 2 or 3 divisions looking for a money grab. It's turning boxing more into a circus than I care to think about.

Even the jumping itself.

Used to be guys would move up and GRADUALLY acclimate themselves to the new weight.

It's all crap, if you ask me.

michael spinks would have been a huge challenge for marvin

i think there's something to be said for those fighters that move up or down for challenges

"Not saying that's the case of all of them" exactly, some move up or down for challenges

many fighters have moved up or down for challenges. no one is criticizing anyone. boxing carries great risks. depending on the circumstances fighters can get a pass for not moving up or down for challenges

moving up or down in weight is not new. it's old school

"Maybe it's all this jumping up 2 or 3 divisions looking for a money grab"
or staying put in a division waiting on smaller guys that will bring bigger purses

"Used to be guys would move up and GRADUALLY acclimate themselves to the new weigh"
that's not how it used to be, there are too many to mention but did ray robinson gradually acclimate to before fighting jake or joey maxim? guys like harry greb, mickey walker, sam langford et cetera

"It's all crap, if you ask me"
all crap? nah moving up or down is common throughout the sports history right up until today

This is all a matter of opinion and personal preference.

I like fighters who take on all challengers, rather than go chasing trinkets for the sake of trinkets. I like fighters who like fighting on even ground, without weight shenanigans, marinating, or other ways to stack the deck in their favor.

Hagler doesn't need a pass from anyone to be considered one of the greatest middleweights in history.

You don't see the controversy surrounding his career that surrounds the careers of others that will go unnamed for purposes of this discussion.

But again... it's a matter of opinion.

You've clearly stated yours.

I've clearly stated mine.