Andre Ward v these fighters

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I have been watching some Andre Ward episodes over the past few weeks and they are good. The one with Joe Calzaghe is excellent.

He does this one below with Roy Jones and they both ask some great questions of one another which is all honest and respectful.

Ward said that Eastern Europeans did not like to fight on the inside, Andre knew he would give the early rounds because he was setting up the pressure for the later rounds and he got stronger as the fight went on. Roy said he sparred with Leonard and improved even more, hardly threw jabs because they made him predictable and found fighting on the inside easy work.

It got me wondering how Andre Ward would have dealt with

B Hop
Golovkin
Joe Calzaghe
James Toney
Beterbiev
Bivol

B Hop - Ward would bully him. Too big and strong

Golovkin - Ward pretty convincingly. Are we saying Ward can’t beat somebody that Canelo bested?

Joe Calzaghe - debatable because neither lost . There is an argument that prime v prime , Calzaghe would outbox and out score Ward to a points victory. But I would say Ward gets to Calzaghe on the inside and saps the strength out of Calzaghe.

James Toney - now it gets interesting. Toney had a lot of ring craft , but I keep thinking Ward always found a way, so how do we know he wouldn’t find a way?

Beterbiev - I actually think these 2 have taken the division to another level. Lots of power and speed, clinical, strong possibly strong enough to cope with Ward on the inside. But I’m just going to give it to Ward.

Bivol - as above , but I think Bivol might be able to move just about enough to not get dragged into an energy sapping clutch fest. Close as hell, but I just can’t go against Ward.

So as you can see, I rate Ward quite a bit higher than @TIC does.

I'll switch your statements from the first two sentences between them : Andre is too big and strong for GGG, my vote : Ward

How can Bernard beat SOG if he couldn't bested JT ? my vote : Ward

I think the Brits will hate me but I have to be onest, Joe was good but Andre was just better. My vote : Ward

James Toney - I agree with everything you said, my vote : ? Ward ?

Beterbiev - I'll go with Andre too (yes , I know , I'm not a good patriot). I remember how Arthur KD Tavoris Cloud by punching him from the clinch, so I think SOG would have respected Arthur's power and would have fought from outside, like he did against Kessler. Of course AB could have KO Ward too, Im not so sure about this one. My vote : ? Ward ?

Bivol - Very close fight. Dmitry moving a lot to avoid clinches and winning the first half, and Andre adjusting and wining the second one. The fight would have happened in the SOG backyard, so .... my vote : Ward

Just because SOG won all these fights, I propose another one : prime Ward vs. prime Roy Jones
- My vote : Nobody would have beaten Roy in his prime -

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Ward beats all of them...

[Primo Carnera]

I have been watching some Andre Ward episodes over the past few weeks and they are good. The one with Joe Calzaghe is excellent.

He does this one below with Roy Jones and they both ask some great questions of one another which is all honest and respectful.

Ward said that Eastern Europeans did not like to fight on the inside, Andre knew he would give the early rounds because he was setting up the pressure for the later rounds and he got stronger as the fight went on. Roy said he sparred with Leonard and improved even more, hardly threw jabs because they made him predictable and found fighting on the inside easy work.

It got me wondering how Andre Ward would have dealt with

B Hop
Golovkin
Joe Calzaghe
James Toney
Beterbiev
Bivol

B Hop - Ward would bully him. Too big and strong

Golovkin - Ward pretty convincingly. Are we saying Ward can’t beat somebody that Canelo bested?

Joe Calzaghe - debatable because neither lost . There is an argument that prime v prime , Calzaghe would outbox and out score Ward to a points victory. But I would say Ward gets to Calzaghe on the inside and saps the strength out of Calzaghe.

James Toney - now it gets interesting. Toney had a lot of ring craft , but I keep thinking Ward always found a way, so how do we know he wouldn’t find a way?

Beterbiev - I actually think these 2 have taken the division to another level. Lots of power and speed, clinical, strong possibly strong enough to cope with Ward on the inside. But I’m just going to give it to Ward.

Bivol - as above , but I think Bivol might be able to move just about enough to not get dragged into an energy sapping clutch fest. Close as hell, but I just can’t go against Ward.

So as you can see, I rate Ward quite a bit higher than @TIC does.

I'll switch your statements from the first two sentences between them : Andre is too big and strong for GGG, my vote : Ward

How can Bernard beat SOG if he couldn't bested JT ? my vote : Ward

I think the Brits will hate me but I have to be onest, Joe was good but Andre was just better. My vote : Ward

James Toney - I agree with everything you said, my vote : ? Ward ?

Beterbiev - I'll go with Andre too (yes , I know , I'm not a good patriot). I remember how Arthur KD Tavoris Cloud by punching him from the clinch, so I think SOG would have respected Arthur's power and would have fought from outside, like he did against Kessler. Of course AB could have KO Ward too, Im not so sure about this one. My vote : ? Ward ?

Bivol - Very close fight. Dmitry moving a lot to avoid clinches and winning the first half, and Andre adjusting and wining the second one. The fight would have happened in the SOG backyard, so .... my vote : Ward

Just because SOG won all these fights, I propose another one : prime Ward vs. prime Roy Jones
- My vote : Nobody would have beaten Roy in his prime -

Yep, and I very nearly put the same last sentence as you did with RJJ. 👍