Just how good was Larry Holmes?

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Fury could even enter top ten all time with his third coming starting later this year........

come on, i know you're a casual these days but this is a really bad take

[Mark TKO]

Fury could even enter top ten all time with his third coming starting later this year........

come on, i know you're a casual these days but this is a really bad take

Bad take ?

Make no mistake I want Wardley to get Fury first and level level him to put him out of the picture but would you put your house on Fury not coming back and regaining the title ??

I wouldn't - though I do think we've seen the best of him.

He's been written off before and has one of the greatest comeback stories in all sports history.

He lost a razor thin SD to Usyk that could have gone either way (round 9 end the decisive factor) and then a wider than should have been UD in a chess style rematch in which little of note happened.

A lot of Fury haters go on about how he was outclassed in both. I didn't see that.

If he goes for Wardley/Kabayel later in the year and wins then I can see the third Usyk fight happening.

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Fury could even enter top ten all time with his third coming starting later this year........

come on, i know you're a casual these days but this is a really bad take

Bad take ?

Make no mistake I want Wardley to get Fury first and level level him to put him out of the picture but would you put your house on Fury not coming back and regaining the title ??

I wouldn't - though I do think we've seen the best of him.

He's been written off before and has one of the greatest comeback stories in all sports history.

He lost a razor thin SD to Usyk that could have gone either way (round 9 end the decisive factor) and then a wider than should have been UD in a chess style rematch in which little of note happened.

A lot of Fury haters go on about how he was outclassed in both. I didn't see that.

If he goes for Wardley/Kabayel later in the year and wins then I can see the third Usyk fight happening.

coming back and regaining the title ??
what do you mean by the title? an alphabet bet belt or all of them, the lineal title? it wouldn't surprise me at all if tyson came back & picked up a belt or even defeated oleksandr to win the lineal. still wouldn't put him in the top ten all time (& i'm going to assume & hope you are just referring to heavies). the fact that fabio holds a belt is all you really need to know, add to that oleksandr is almost 40, with a long amateur career that began over twenty years ago & fights against the top guys at cruiser & heavy as a pro. he's already out the door, a win over oleksandr now is pointless & counts for nothing

one of the greatest comeback stories in all sports history
in your opinion. he was out due to a ban & got drugged up & fat. three fights with deontay won't put you in the top ten all time, that comeback since his win over wlad included a gift over a mma fighter on his boxing debut & two loses to what tyson himself called a middleweight

oleksandr beat tyson clearly both times, stop glazing over tyson, if anything the ref saved tyson in that 9th round

i don't hate tyson, he was competitive in the first half of the first fight before oleksandr took over & should have got a stoppage over him & he was outclassed in the second fight

tyson might go for fabio, i doubt he'll look in agit's direction & a third fight with oleksandr is meaningless. now even if he won all three of those fights he still isn't top ten all time

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OK yes I mean lineal and beating Usyk and I mean heavies.

Mental health issues, drug addiction and ten stone overweight and coming back to win any version of the world title is good enough credentials to claim that accolade if you ask me.

I ain't glazing over him. I'm no fan of his at all any more believe me. Disagree he should have been stopped. He was taking punishment but was champion and he went down. That was the difference between him winning and losing in the end and no one really knew who was going to get that decision till it was called.

Outclassed in the rematch - again I disagree. Two point loss then fair enough but you've seen fights like that go the other way way too often. But yes the right man won.

Time will tell. He needs two good wins first, one against Wardley or Kabayel. And Wardley is a champion whether we agree he's worthy of it or not.

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with so many belts around these days grabbing one ain't as difficult as it used to be & deontay picked tyson because he was an easy mark, the fact that tyson should have got that decision shows how bad deontay is. i'll give you it but personally i don't think he deserved a shot

we can agree to disagree if tyson should have been stopped or not, if it was oleksandr in that position i think the ref might have stopped it. the ref even gave tyson extra time so the bell would end the round. the nineth round wasn't the difference between tyson winning or losing, he lost clearly. the only reason there was any doubt was because of corruption & the constant bad judging in boxing

you can disagree that tyson was outclassed in the rematch but i think i had it wider than the first, if the rematch went the other way it would have been a straight up robbery

let's see how he does against arslanbek makhmudov, he's terrible but can punch a bit. i have nothing against fabio, he was my fighter of the year for 2025 because i thought he scored the two best wins of the year but it just shows that being in the right place at the right time can get you a belt