Quote Originally Posted by shza
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Hatton being worked hard by a big southpaw with a good chin and still winning......doesn't affect how good Floyd Mayweather Jr is!

and

Floyd running around Baldomir all night doesn't affect how good Hatton is.
That's obviously true, but I really don't think anyone's said otherwise. The point albsur was making was about hypocrisy. The problem I have with this sort of thing is the notion that there's some equivalence between (a) Hatton getting outpointed on a lot of people's cards and then moving down in weight to fight Urango and (b) Floyd winning every single round to take the WW championship and then moving up in weight to fight De la Hoya. As if these two things are both equally bad and subject to the same criticism. And when the same person who defends Hatton for (a) is so quick to criticize Mayweather for (b), it just smells funny.

I understand that people didn't find Floyd's performance "entertaining," but the the fact is that he pitched a shut out in a lineal championship fight. How that could possibly reflect poorly on his quality as a boxer (not as an entertainer) is still a little beyond me.

I don't think anyone's ever said that Floyd's domination of Baldomir "affects how good Hatton is" one way or another--that wouldn't make any sense.
cc back shza.

Good post buddy, I dont see how anyone can compare Ricky getting a gift against Collazo and Mayweather running rings around Baldomir as both being equally negative either.

Hatton looked very ordinary against Collazo, Floyd still looked like a master boxer against Baldimor.

Anyone who says Floyd is not entertaining is just ignorant and cannot have watched any of his other fights.

How can anyone consider Mayweather vs Coralles boring? Or Mayweather vs Gatti? He rises to the occasion and has found a way to defeat every fighter put in front of him.

I've watched his entire career and the beautiful thing about Foyd is that he adpats. In his early career he was considered a puncher with one punch knockout power, as he's moved up in weight and as now is fighting a couple divisions above his natural weight limit he's resorted to boxing ability and elusiveness to overcome the weight disadvantage.

That to me is impressive. Ricky is great at 140 but his style means he cannot move up as he has only way to fight and win, and that is bullying and pressuring a weaker opponent.

Floyd can win in multiple ways and that makes him a far superior fighter.