At 135,Cas allll the way. At 130,Manny may be....Pacquiao is a monster at 130,and Cas i getting ol,making that weight would be hard for him. 135,I think Cas would really outfox and outbox him.Joel is one of the most unfer rated fighters i the game today and had he had a bit of luck with decisions,the guys would be unbeaten and P4P top 5 EASILY.H;es been in soooooo many close fights!