Looking back at old controversial fights.... (Updated) Jones vs. Tarver I

[CutMeMick]

Hagler made a huge mistake by not attacking the body early and he let Leonard build up a lead.

Not only build up a lead but he let SRL take the last rds. (except for 12) and you and I both know what happens when a certain fighters wins those last few rds. of a close fight.....

We've seen it time after time again and this was no exception.

[ICB]

whats next fight going to be sweetpea

[SweetPea]

April 20, 2002. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (27-0, 20 KO) vs. Jose Luis Castillo (45-4-1, 40 KO) for Castillo's WBC Lightweight Title. This was Mayweather's first fight at 135 after vacating his WBC Super Featherweight title.
Mayweather won by unanimous decision, with the judges scoring the fight 116-111, 115-111, 115-111.
Both fighters had a point deducted for fouls. Castillo in the 8th round and Mayweather in the 10th.

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | total

Castillo | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 113
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Mayweather| 10 | 10 | 10| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 113

I have it a draw. Castillo would have retained his title.

[ICB]

April 20, 2002. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (27-0, 20 KO) vs. Jose Luis Castillo (45-4-1, 40 KO) for Castillo's WBC Lightweight Title. This was Mayweather's first fight at 135 after vacating his WBC Super Featherweight title.
Mayweather won by unanimous decision, with the judges scoring the fight 116-111, 115-111, 115-111.
Both fighters had a point deducted for fouls. Castillo in the 8th round and Mayweather in the 10th.

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | total

Castillo | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 113
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Mayweather| 10 | 10 | 10| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 113

I have it a draw. Castillo would have retained his title.

oo nice i might not have time to watch it all today but ill let you know my scorecard tommorow

[CutMeMick]

Really good highlight vid takes you through all the rounds with the best moments of both fighters...
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Heres are rds. 6, 7 & 12 full rounds...

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[Violent Demise]

Round 01-Mayweather
Round 02-Mayweather
Round 03-Mayweather
Round 04-Mayweather
Round 05-Castillo
Round 06-Castillo
Round 07-Castillo
Round 08-Mayweather
Round 09-Mayweather
Round 10-Castillo
Round 11-Even
Round 12-Mayweather

115-113 Mayweather

Close fight, that I taught Mayweather without controversy. I think the fact that Mayweather had never been in a close fight until this made people think that he actually lost. When in fact, he didn't. .

[BIG H]

Will watch later and post my score

[El Gamo]

I'm DEFINTELY going to post in the JLC-PBF thread,I'll watch it tomorrow morning. I don't think its because Floyd was in a close fight,I think it was because JLC landed more blows,the harder blows,and PBF was not showing generalship(as Lederman pointed out)he was pot shotting and running. He under estimated the monster Castillo. Roger Mayweather disrespected JLC before the fight,saying if someone from the crowd threw in a beer bottle,it would hit JLC(ie thats how wide open he was). Castillo took it to Mayweather and I'lll certainly be posting my card tomorrow morning.

[ICB]

rd1 mayweather 10-9
rd2 mayweather 10-9
rd3 mayweather 10-9
rd4 mayweather 10-9
rd5 castillo 10-9
rd6 castillo 10-9
rd7 castillo 10-9
rd8 i liked mayweathers work with his jab in this round and with castillo having point deducted 10-8 floyd
rd9 castillo 10-9
rd10 castillo was on his way to winning this round and mayweather had point deducted so 10-8 castillo
rd11 castillo 10-9
rd12 castillo 10-9

112 mayweather 114 castillo

castillo was more agressive i think mayweather won first 4 rounds easy then castillo won next 3 and then from round 9 he pounded mayweathers body and was more aggressive and i liked castillos work and i think mayweather should of lost this fight

[CutMeMick]

JLC: 3,5,6,7,10,11 = 114
PBF: 1,2,4,9,12 = 112
Rd. 8 was (9-9) JLC had a point deducted for hitting during a break.
*Rd. 10 was (10- PBF had a point deducted for pushing off with his forearm.

I just finished watching it again and it's the same way I've always seen it JLC was the aggressor punishing PBF and working him against the ropes making PBF go back. JLC always looked for the fight and he was the champ. I didn't see PBF do anything that a challenger is suppose to do when fighting for a title you're suppose to come in and take the title. JLC was always the aggressor and IMO landed the harder punches wether to the head or body.

[ICB]

JLC: 3,5,6,7,10,11 = 114
PBF: 1,2,4,9,12 = 112
Rd. 8 was (9-9) JLC had a point deducted for hitting during a break.
*Rd. 10 was (10- PBF had a point deducted for pushing off with his forearm.

I just finished watching it again and it's the same way I've always seen it JLC was the aggressor punishing PBF and working him against the ropes making PBF go back. JLC always looked for the fight and he was the champ. I didn't see PBF do anything that a challenger is suppose to do when fighting for a title you're suppose to come in and take the title. JLC was always the aggressor and IMO landed the harder punches wether to the head or body.

i scored rounds different but we both come out with 114-112 and i agree with you mayweather didnt do enough to take jlc belt and castillo was aggressor and in my eyes he did enough to retain his belt i totally agree with mick on this one

[puga_ni_nana]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL
Castillo 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 9 10 9 9 10 113
Mayweather 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 10 9 113

ROUND 1, Mayweather's speed was clear and controls the opening round.
ROUND 2, Mayweather still controls this round.
ROUND 3, A little close since first 2 minutes controlled by mayweather but with 30secs left castlillo have some good shots.
ROUND 4, Not much punch landed by both, but 1 solid punch by castillo.
ROUND 5, Castillo's aggresiveness is now evident. But mayweather's counter shot saves this round for him.
ROUND 6, Castillo for being the aggresor. Too much aggresiveness even punching while on hold.
ROUND 7, Castillo dominates this round.
ROUND 8, Castillo still the aggressive one. Landed punches to the body. Deducted 1 point by ref due to punch thrown at break.
ROUND 9, Very close to me, could gone either way. castillo's aggresiveness is a factor. mayweather's defense and dancing (or running) around is impressive.
ROUND 10, Nice counter shots by mayweather. Deducted 1 point by ref. for sticking elbow.
ROUND 11, Mayweather stands toe-to-toe with castillo and landed some good combination and counters. Castillo looks tired.
ROUND 12, Castillo finishes strong.

This fight is a DRAW, a very good fight though.

[CutMeMick]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL
Castillo 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 9 10 9 9 10 113
Mayweather 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 10 9 113

ROUND 1, Mayweather's speed was clear and controls the opening round.
ROUND 2, Mayweather still controls this round.
ROUND 3, A little close since first 2 minutes controlled by mayweather but with 30secs left castlillo have some good shots.
ROUND 4, Not much punch landed by both, but 1 solid punch by castillo.
ROUND 5, Castillo's aggresiveness is now evident. But mayweather's counter shot saves this round for him.
ROUND 6, Castillo for being the aggresor. Too much aggresiveness even punching while on hold.
ROUND 7, Castillo dominates this round.
ROUND 8, Castillo still the aggressive one. Landed punches to the body. Deducted 1 point by ref due to punch thrown at break.
ROUND 9, Very close to me, could gone either way. castillo's aggresiveness is a factor. mayweather's defense and dancing (or running) around is impressive.
ROUND 10, Nice counter shots by mayweather. Deducted 1 point by ref. for sticking elbow.
ROUND 11, Mayweather stands toe-to-toe with castillo and landed some good combination and counters. Castillo looks tired.
ROUND 12, Castillo finishes strong.

This fight is a DRAW, a very good fight though.

Heres 'cool click' #2 on me and Welcome to Casa De Saddo where your opinion os sure to be crushed by some drunk.... WackOff3205 or SalTheButcher....

Nice input on the fight and glad to see a new member jump right into the action.....

[puga_ni_nana]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL
Castillo 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 9 10 9 9 10 113
Mayweather 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 10 9 113

ROUND 1, Mayweather's speed was clear and controls the opening round.
ROUND 2, Mayweather still controls this round.
ROUND 3, A little close since first 2 minutes controlled by mayweather but with 30secs left castlillo have some good shots.
ROUND 4, Not much punch landed by both, but 1 solid punch by castillo.
ROUND 5, Castillo's aggresiveness is now evident. But mayweather's counter shot saves this round for him.
ROUND 6, Castillo for being the aggresor. Too much aggresiveness even punching while on hold.
ROUND 7, Castillo dominates this round.
ROUND 8, Castillo still the aggressive one. Landed punches to the body. Deducted 1 point by ref due to punch thrown at break.
ROUND 9, Very close to me, could gone either way. castillo's aggresiveness is a factor. mayweather's defense and dancing (or running) around is impressive.
ROUND 10, Nice counter shots by mayweather. Deducted 1 point by ref. for sticking elbow.
ROUND 11, Mayweather stands toe-to-toe with castillo and landed some good combination and counters. Castillo looks tired.
ROUND 12, Castillo finishes strong.

This fight is a DRAW, a very good fight though.

Heres 'cool click' #2 on me and Welcome to Casa De Saddo where your opinion os sure to be crushed by some drunk.... WackOff3205 or SalTheButcher....

Nice input on the fight and glad to see a new member jump right into the action.....

thanks! admittedly that i only knew little about the sport. but i enjoy watching some good fights whenever's a chance.

my first time i watched PBF-JLC1, i thought that Castillo should have won.
i watched it again today when saw this thread (nice idea!!!) and scored it round-by-round. some close rounds and could go to either fighter defending on what style you prefer (aggresive or counterpuncher).

but i find it a little fascinating when all the 3 judges scored it in favor of PBF by a somewhat 2-3 rounds swing. guess they prefer PBF's counter-punching and running around.

[CutMeMick]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL
Castillo 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 9 10 9 9 10 113
Mayweather 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 10 9 113

ROUND 1, Mayweather's speed was clear and controls the opening round.
ROUND 2, Mayweather still controls this round.
ROUND 3, A little close since first 2 minutes controlled by mayweather but with 30secs left castlillo have some good shots.
ROUND 4, Not much punch landed by both, but 1 solid punch by castillo.
ROUND 5, Castillo's aggresiveness is now evident. But mayweather's counter shot saves this round for him.
ROUND 6, Castillo for being the aggresor. Too much aggresiveness even punching while on hold.
ROUND 7, Castillo dominates this round.
ROUND 8, Castillo still the aggressive one. Landed punches to the body. Deducted 1 point by ref due to punch thrown at break.
ROUND 9, Very close to me, could gone either way. castillo's aggresiveness is a factor. mayweather's defense and dancing (or running) around is impressive.
ROUND 10, Nice counter shots by mayweather. Deducted 1 point by ref. for sticking elbow.
ROUND 11, Mayweather stands toe-to-toe with castillo and landed some good combination and counters. Castillo looks tired.
ROUND 12, Castillo finishes strong.

This fight is a DRAW, a very good fight though.

Heres 'cool click' #2 on me and Welcome to Casa De Saddo where your opinion os sure to be crushed by some drunk.... WackOff3205 or SalTheButcher....

Nice input on the fight and glad to see a new member jump right into the action.....

thanks! admittedly that i only knew little about the sport. but i enjoy watching some good fights whenever's a chance.

my first time i watched PBF-JLC1, i thought that Castillo should have won.
i watched it again today when saw this thread (nice idea!!!) and scored it round-by-round. some close rounds and could go to either fighter defending on what style you prefer (aggresive or counterpuncher).

but i find it a little fascinating when all the 3 judges scored it in favor of PBF by a somewhat 2-3 rounds swing. guess they prefer PBF's counter-punching and running around.

Yeah! but keep in mind JLC was the champ.
IMO since JLC was the champ. I didn't see anything from PBF that indicated he was the challenger that he was there to win a fight, he fought like he was the champ there and JLC fought like the challenger the hungrier of the 2.
He fought aggressive and he pusnished PBF to the body and to the head.....
PBFs body punches were taps in the form of jabs to the stomach, while JLC threw hooks and uppers to the rib cage and to the stomach more variations of body attack.....