What do you classify as "running" in a fight??

[El Gamo]

I have now seen quite a few fights where a guy is a "boxer" but he throws so little,I wonder is he really boxing?? So what do you define as a boxer and what is just running? Give examples if you can.

I guarantee that people will disagree with me on this, but here goes.

When you are matching your opponent in shots thrown, or making an effort to outland your opponent you are boxing.
Examples of boxing
PBF vs. Baldomir and Rounds 1-10 Ban Rabah vs. Urango


When you are not throwing at the same level as your opponent you are "running"
Example of running
7th round - 12th round Baldomir vs. Judah.

Hmmmm,interesting but if 1 guy is running,its going to be hard for the other to able to land ANYTHING on the runner,hence he will have landed less.

Leaving the Parish to avoid the punch

Duuuuuude,one of your mystic nuggests of info...can anyone shed some light on this?

watch the 1st round of hopkins vs. hakkar

I've seen it but can't remember. Jog my memory please bro?

Watch pretty much any Cory Spinks fight, THAT is running. Leonard vs Hagler II is also running. Ben Rabah ran from Urango as far as I'm concerned. Running is when you are staying completely away from your opponent, not committing to any of your punches, and pretty much avoiding any kind of confrontation what so ever. Its trying to steal rounds by doing as little as possible, and avoiding being hit. It pisses me off.

I like that definition. I'm going to download Spinks foghts v Mayorga and see what you have been talking about ever since I've been here. I've wacthed parts of the fight but never sat down adn watched the whole fight.

I really like your definition though,I've highlighted it. That sounds good to me.

CC. Go for it man. Be warned though, it is not a good or entertaining fight, because Spinks just refuses to engage at all. He gets knocked down three times though, which I'd say 2, 1 for sure is a legit knockdown that is not scored. Plus that damn ref took I believe 2 points away from Mayorga. It was a screwjob if I've ever seen one. And it is a perfect example of one guy running from his opponent all night long.

CC back man,I'll check it out.

I consider running not willing to take any chances and basically running around the outside of the ring and being content to land one punch at a time at a "safe" distance

Hmmm,so basically not willing to engage?




So where is the line drawn between running and boxing? I think Corey Spinks is the prefect fighter to discuss,I know guys like Hulk think he runs ALOT whereas others say he is a pure boxer,where is the line? Did he run v Mayorga/Karmazin?

I think so. Corey Spinks isnt a boxer that i think runs a lot, he boxer Mayorga for the most part and would have been stupid to stand and trade with him. SRL ran when he fought Duran the second time because even though he was winning some rounds he was still fighting at Durans pace. RJJ vs Johnson is a perfect example of running

YEAH,Tthats what I mean. Hulk,wouldn't Spinks have been stupid to stand for too long??Was he throwing punches??

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