Poll: Taylor to defend against Pavlik! It's going to happen!

[southakron314]

My friends little girl after the fight said Edison Miranda looked like a new born kitten. I about shoot beer out my nostrils. I never laughed so hard she is only like 7.

Im sorry if that is crude. I didnt want to see any one get hurt in the fight and I said a prayer that they didnt. My first fight I can remember was Boom Boom and Duk Koo Kim. Kim died in it 5 days later . So I try to say a mental prayer for the fighters.But my lord was that funny.......... a new born kitten.

[Wacko3205]

Well i will have to rewatch that fight Wacko for the info though didn't know all that but i agree Pavlik is massive puncher and Taylor won't able to do his normal stuff of just being able to win a fight Pavlik won't be looking for a points win he will go in the ring and try and take Taylors head off Pavlik will be a star imo he will beat Taylor and anybody else at Middleweight dare i say he would be a force at Supermiddleweight aswell ?? i did watch Miranda vs Pavlik that was proper boxing at its best toe to toe slugfest no holds barred he walked through everything Miranda had to offer and just comeback at him and beat crap out of him he looked good a proper in that fight and i believe he will finally put en end to these gift decisions Taylor is getting.

right back, Lil Doggy!

Watch Taylor's first 20 fights & then watch his last seven or eight...you'll be wondering where the fwock Taylor went.

Seriously...I aint being hyper critical or trying to stretch the truth.

You know what...I agree with you...Taylor won't able to do his normal stuff. He sure as shit won't be able to win a fight with Pavlik by just trying to coast through the match on his jab. Also...I agree again...if Pavlik chops Taylor's block...Pavlik will be the go to guy of 160lbs.

As far as Pavlik being a star at 168lbs? Nope...I just don't see it for him. I think that he should be the man at 160lbs...if he can.

I have high hopes & I think that he'd be good for the sport. He's a good kid, respectable, respectful, & he's got what most fan's are in need of...concussive power & heart. Miranda vs Pavlik was more than just a toe to toe no holds barred slugfest...it was the greatest performance that we, the fans have seen from a middleweight contender in a long, long, loooooooooooong time. That's saying a lot because I was really thrilled with Sturm's shot against Oscar & Abraham's job against Miranda.

With his knockout of Miranda Pavlik pretty much issued a statement punctuated by an exclamation point...one that serves as his notice to everyone at the weight to go ahead & drop their drawers, pinch their noses, grab their ankles, & pucker up because pretty soon...they can all kiss their asses good bye.

With the power, heart, & chin that Pavlik posses...the right match ups could see him rise to the top.

IWO, all Pavlik needs to do is defeat Taylor & then start globe trotting & he could be one of the most respected & revered fighters of the last year five or six years in the 160lb range. That being said...it wasn't a display of technical brilliance...but it was impressive.

[ICB]

Well i will have to rewatch that fight Wacko for the info though didn't know all that but i agree Pavlik is massive puncher and Taylor won't able to do his normal stuff of just being able to win a fight Pavlik won't be looking for a points win he will go in the ring and try and take Taylors head off Pavlik will be a star imo he will beat Taylor and anybody else at Middleweight dare i say he would be a force at Supermiddleweight aswell ?? i did watch Miranda vs Pavlik that was proper boxing at its best toe to toe slugfest no holds barred he walked through everything Miranda had to offer and just comeback at him and beat crap out of him he looked good a proper in that fight and i believe he will finally put en end to these gift decisions Taylor is getting.

right back, Lil Doggy!

Watch Taylor's first 20 fights & then watch his last seven or eight...you'll be wondering where the fwock Taylor went.

Seriously...I aint being hyper critical or trying to stretch the truth.

You know what...I agree with you...Taylor won't able to do his normal stuff. He sure as S*** won't be able to win a fight with Pavlik by just trying to coast through the match on his jab. Also...I agree again...if Pavlik chops Taylor's block...Pavlik will be the go to guy of 160lbs.

As far as Pavlik being a star at 168lbs? Nope...I just don't see it for him. I think that he should be the man at 160lbs...if he can.

I have high hopes & I think that he'd be good for the sport. He's a good kid, respectable, respectful, & he's got what most fan's are in need of...concussive power & heart. Miranda vs Pavlik was more than just a toe to toe no holds barred slugfest...it was the greatest performance that we, the fans have seen from a middleweight contender in a long, long, loooooooooooong time. That's saying a lot because I was really thrilled with Sturm's shot against Oscar & Abraham's job against Miranda.

With his knockout of Miranda Pavlik pretty much issued a statement punctuated by an exclamation point...one that serves as his notice to everyone at the weight to go ahead & drop their drawers, pinch their noses, grab their ankles, & pucker up because pretty soon...they can all kiss their asses good bye.

With the power, heart, & chin that Pavlik posses...the right match ups could see him rise to the top.

IWO, all Pavlik needs to do is defeat Taylor & then start globe trotting & he could be one of the most respected & revered fighters of the last year five or six years in the 160lb range. That being said...it wasn't a display of technical brilliance...but it was impressive.

Didn't think you was Wacko its just Taylor isn't doing himself no favours with these boring dragged out controversial fights i have nothing against Taylor outside the ring he seems a nice guy but inside he is boring as F*** seriously the Middleweight division needs a champion like Pavlik who isn't going to be looking for favours with judges but just going in there giving it everything he has got unlike Taylor who has played it safe whole time hoping to get lucky with judges that imo is not a real champion i really Hope Pavlik wins he will bring alot of excitement to Middleweight divison and if he beats Taylor he will rule Middleweight division for a long time and we will see some damn exciting fights to go along with it.

[CountryBoy]

[boozeboxer]

My friends little girl after the fight said Edison Miranda looked like a new born kitten. I about shoot beer out my nostrils. I never laughed so hard she is only like 7.

Im sorry if that is crude. I didnt want to see any one get hurt in the fight and I said a prayer that they didnt. My first fight I can remember was Boom Boom and Duk Koo Kim. Kim died in it 5 days later . So I try to say a mental prayer for the fighters.But my lord was that funny.......... a new born kitten.

CC. man. that is funny.

[CountryBoy]

Well i will have to rewatch that fight Wacko for the info though didn't know all that but i agree Pavlik is massive puncher and Taylor won't able to do his normal stuff of just being able to win a fight Pavlik won't be looking for a points win he will go in the ring and try and take Taylors head off Pavlik will be a star imo he will beat Taylor and anybody else at Middleweight dare i say he would be a force at Supermiddleweight aswell ?? i did watch Miranda vs Pavlik that was proper boxing at its best toe to toe slugfest no holds barred he walked through everything Miranda had to offer and just comeback at him and beat crap out of him he looked good a proper in that fight and i believe he will finally put en end to these gift decisions Taylor is getting.

right back, Lil Doggy!

Watch Taylor's first 20 fights & then watch his last seven or eight...you'll be wondering where the fwock Taylor went.

Seriously...I aint being hyper critical or trying to stretch the truth.

You know what...I agree with you...Taylor won't able to do his normal stuff. He sure as S*** won't be able to win a fight with Pavlik by just trying to coast through the match on his jab. Also...I agree again...if Pavlik chops Taylor's block...Pavlik will be the go to guy of 160lbs.

As far as Pavlik being a star at 168lbs? Nope...I just don't see it for him. I think that he should be the man at 160lbs...if he can.

I have high hopes & I think that he'd be good for the sport. He's a good kid, respectable, respectful, & he's got what most fan's are in need of...concussive power & heart. Miranda vs Pavlik was more than just a toe to toe no holds barred slugfest...it was the greatest performance that we, the fans have seen from a middleweight contender in a long, long, loooooooooooong time. That's saying a lot because I was really thrilled with Sturm's shot against Oscar & Abraham's job against Miranda.

With his knockout of Miranda Pavlik pretty much issued a statement punctuated by an exclamation point...one that serves as his notice to everyone at the weight to go ahead & drop their drawers, pinch their noses, grab their ankles, & pucker up because pretty soon...they can all kiss their asses good bye.

With the power, heart, & chin that Pavlik posses...the right match ups could see him rise to the top.

IWO, all Pavlik needs to do is defeat Taylor & then start globe trotting & he could be one of the most respected & revered fighters of the last year five or six years in the 160lb range. That being said...it wasn't a display of technical brilliance...but it was impressive.

He got taste of the goodlife(Money) and lost the passion for the sport itself and he is looking for easy big paydays. I honestly believe that Pavlik will Ko this guy.

[Purist]

Taylor's going to win this fight. That much is sure. It's will people say Pavlik just beat an underskilled Miranda and never fought anybody thats the question.

Taylor isn't gonna let Pavlik stalk him and load up for his right hand. And he has a better chin then Miranda better boxing skills, is faster and has better balance(for his lack of it) then Miranda does.

Point blank, Taylor will be the greatest fighter Pavlik has ever fought. The same cannot be said about Pavlik.

Whilst I agree that Taylor will fight Pavlik better than he has fought in his last few fights,I HIGHLY doubt it will be as easy as yo are making out. He has better balance than Miranda...so what? JT's balance is still woeful. And how does he have a better chin than Miranda,which punchers has JT fought?

JT's power at higher levels is questionable,he was constantly being backed up by the weak compared to Pavlik,Kassim Ouma and Winky. Pavlik is bigger,stronger and hits tonnes harder than them both. Pavlik is also fairly decent defensively,I don't know if people notice but although he gets hit,he knows how to smother shots too and he takes a few on the gloves.

And just because Taylor will be the the best fight Pavlik has fought and not the same for Taylor,what relevance does that have?> Styles make fights. Taylor's inactivity will cost him. Like I said,this isn't B Hop throwing 5 punches a round,or some blown up 154 pounder. This is the biggest strongest and baddest guy Taylor has fought.

It'll be far from easy for Kelly and JT will have his moments for sure but Kelly would win imo on points.

I never said it would be easy. But I said Taylor would win He has a better alla round game and craft then Miranda, the only thing Miranda has is power going for him. But Jermain's style isn't to overpower another fighter or bully them like Miranda's is. Taylor's style is to fight off a bully and he does that. And honestly I don't see Pavlik with as good a jab as Wrights. And I think Pavlik is an easier style matchup then Spinks was. And I think Jermain would shock a lot of people when he beat him. Wouldn't be easy but it would be clear

[amat]

What makes you think Taylor's style is to fight off a bully? When has he ever fought good off his backfoot?

[CountryBoy]

What makes you think Taylor's style is to fight off a bully? When has he ever fought good off his backfoot?

The question is, Can he take a big shot... He's never fought a puncher, Maybe their's a reason why!?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

My friends little girl after the fight said Edison Miranda looked like a new born kitten. I about shoot beer out my nostrils. I never laughed so hard she is only like 7.

The things kids come out with

[LegendBoxing65]

Spinks was a bad style for Taylor, but it is the best style for fighters to fight. They seem to get better after they fight elusive guys. They work on things in the gym after that.

[bzkfn]

Very well said...highlighted what I liked the best...

Anyways, Pavlik backed up possibly the hardest guy to back up in the division in Miranda. Backing Taylor up, as Wright showed, is what kills Taylor. Taylor did not win a single round in that fight when Wright wasn't flatfooted. Pavlik has a good jab and what comes after it is even better. Taylor will have plenty of opportunity to land, but he would have to be busy because he is not a counter puncher.

...and the reason that I highlighted this below?

Taylor don't take a flush shot worth a fiz-uck! Hopkins clocked Taylor in the first fight, it was either the 9th or 10th round I believe, and nearly knocked his head off of his shoulders. Taylor dropped his hands, got clocked again & then acted like a deer in headlights prior to gettin tagged again & then went flailing around & back pedaling on his bike until he could get a clutch on Hopkins.

...because it's the same thing that he did against Spinks, Wright, Cuevas, & Ouma...just minus all that flailing around bullshit agaist Hopkins.

For some reason...Taylor seems to have forgotten his defense, power, & boxing smarts. Seriously...I S*** you not...I don't know WTF has happened to this kid. He was somethin else prior to the Hopkins bout. Now I know that no one is perfect...but Taylor was REALLY good. I'd love to see him get it back...but honestly...I'd love to see someone that earned it command the championship.

I don't feel that Taylor has earned all of his wins lately.

Have yourself a shiny for saying exactly how I feel about this guy. I understand why people felt Spinks didn't win, but I still would have give him the win for the fact he was doing more than Taylor. I feel that based on his last 4 fights, Jermain Taylor does not deserve to be recognised as undisputed middleweight champion.

[CountryBoy]

Community pride rides high after Kelly Pavlik's victory
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Attendance was standing room only at one Valley bar that showed the fight.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

It was a proud Sunday for the Mahoning Valley — a day after what one person called one of the greatest moments in the region's noted sports history.

In pummeling his way Saturday to the world's No. 1 middleweight contender title, Kelly Pavlik gave the Mahoning Valley a positive punch.

A night that started with anxious feelings for some slowly grew into a roar.

About 30 minutes after it began, it was over.

The Valley was a euphoric place for hundreds upon hundreds who gathered in bars and homes to watch Pavlik ascend to boxing elite.

"There was just this roar," said Shawn Durkin, manager at Buffalo Wild Wings in the Great East Plaza, Niles, where 200 or so people packed in to watch the fight.

Durkin said a lot of anticipation led up to the first bell, and some were nervous about the outcome. But once the bout started and Pavlik dominated, the restaurant was taken to a different place.


"It was just loud, and everyone was high-fiving each other and really enthusiastic."

Area leaders found themselves in awe of the 25-year-old from Lowellville.

"It's a great victory for Youngstown," said Anthony Traficanti, Mahoning County commissioner. "That young man is on his way to the top. It was one heck of a fight."

The victory is good for the community, too.

"It speaks volumes on the quality of people that come out of the Valley, not only in the professional business field, but also in sports," Traficanti said. "Kelly Pavlik is definitely a great testament to that."

Room was packed

Jason Kather, manager at Quaker Steak & Lube, Interstate Boulevard, Austintown, said the restaurant was standing room only for the fight.

The restaurant seats 500 people.

"It was an electric atmosphere here," Kather said.

Every time Pavlik mentioned Youngstown, the crowd cheered, the manager said.

"It was like any playoff game for the Steelers or the Browns," he said.

Pavlik volunteered as a celebrity bartender at the Austintown restaurant occasionally, and SportsTime Ohio, a television station, filmed one of his recent appearances there.

Quaker Steak will likely host another party when that program airs, Kather said.

Officials' responses

Elected officials also tuned in to the fight.

Youngstown Mayor Jay Williams believes Pavlik's victory ranks among the greatest moments in the city's annals of sports history.

"I think this is a new chapter being written," he said.

Williams referred to comments from the announcers at the fight about Youngstown's great sports and boxing tradition, specifically mentioning Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini.

"Kelly Pavlik represented, first and foremost, himself and his family, but also the city and the Mahoning Valley in an exemplary fashion," the mayor said. "It was a tremendous feat and a tremendous accomplishment."

He was also impressed by the number of times the fighter mentioned the city.

Williams acknowledged he's not a boxing analyst, but believes, as some experts in the sport have opined, that the undercard fight between Pavlik and Edison Miranda should have been the main event.

That main attraction was the fight between JermainTaylor, the middleweight champion, and Cory Spinks. Taylor won the fight in a split decision by the judges.

When interviewed after his victory, Taylor was asked if he'd fight Pavlik. Williams said the champion evaded a direct answer, indicating that Taylor may see Pavlik as fists to be reckoned with in the ring.

State Rep. Robert Hagan, D-60th, of Youngstown, watched the fight Saturday night with his wife.

Sunday morning, he was watching it again with his son.

"It just gives the city of Youngstown and the people of Youngstown something positive to be proud of instead of something negative," Hagan said.

The state representative is impressed with Pavlik's loyalty to the area as well, pointing to how many times the boxer mentioned Youngstown after Saturday's win.

Online discussion

The Vindy.com discussion board shows popularity of Pavlik's fight stretches almost as far as his punches.

Scott Bondar, a 1998 Austintown Fitch High School graduate, is on active duty with the military and living in Virginia.

"I've been watching Pavlik fight for some time," Bondar wrote on Vindy.com. "I've been telling everyone on base about Pavlik and for (Saturday's) fight, I had about 40 of my friends who hadn't previously heard of him watching the fight. Everyone was impressed and I can't wait to host a big party for his next fight."

In an e-mail, Bondar said Pavlik's comments after the fight showed the fighter's character.

"I felt a lot of pride with him representing my hometown. Everyone in the military talks a lot about where they are from, and I think he is really putting Youngstown on the map," Bondar wrote. I think it also showed a lot of character on his part that he knows where he came from and acknowledges his fans in Youngstown."

The fight was emotional for the serviceman.

"I felt like he won the fight for every one of his fans in the Valley," Bondar wrote.

Others hope Pavlik's next fight is a little closer to home.

Anthony C. said on Vindy.com that he watched the fight with about 10 friends.

"We were loving everything about the fight and how Kelly Pavlik dominated. We are proud of Kelly and we hope to see him take down Jermain Taylor this summer at the Chevy Centre."

[southakron314]

What makes you think Taylor's style is to fight off a bully? When has he ever fought good off his backfoot?

Never

[southakron314]

Community pride rides high after Kelly Pavlik's victory
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Attendance was standing room only at one Valley bar that showed the fight.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

It was a proud Sunday for the Mahoning Valley — a day after what one person called one of the greatest moments in the region's noted sports history.

In pummeling his way Saturday to the world's No. 1 middleweight contender title, Kelly Pavlik gave the Mahoning Valley a positive punch.

A night that started with anxious feelings for some slowly grew into a roar.

About 30 minutes after it began, it was over.

The Valley was a euphoric place for hundreds upon hundreds who gathered in bars and homes to watch Pavlik ascend to boxing elite.

"There was just this roar," said Shawn Durkin, manager at Buffalo Wild Wings in the Great East Plaza, Niles, where 200 or so people packed in to watch the fight.

Durkin said a lot of anticipation led up to the first bell, and some were nervous about the outcome. But once the bout started and Pavlik dominated, the restaurant was taken to a different place.


"It was just loud, and everyone was high-fiving each other and really enthusiastic."

Area leaders found themselves in awe of the 25-year-old from Lowellville.

"It's a great victory for Youngstown," said Anthony Traficanti, Mahoning County commissioner. "That young man is on his way to the top. It was one heck of a fight."

The victory is good for the community, too.

"It speaks volumes on the quality of people that come out of the Valley, not only in the professional business field, but also in sports," Traficanti said. "Kelly Pavlik is definitely a great testament to that."

Room was packed

Jason Kather, manager at Quaker Steak & Lube, Interstate Boulevard, Austintown, said the restaurant was standing room only for the fight.

The restaurant seats 500 people.

"It was an electric atmosphere here," Kather said.

Every time Pavlik mentioned Youngstown, the crowd cheered, the manager said.

"It was like any playoff game for the Steelers or the Browns," he said.

Pavlik volunteered as a celebrity bartender at the Austintown restaurant occasionally, and SportsTime Ohio, a television station, filmed one of his recent appearances there.

Quaker Steak will likely host another party when that program airs, Kather said.

Officials' responses

Elected officials also tuned in to the fight.

Youngstown Mayor Jay Williams believes Pavlik's victory ranks among the greatest moments in the city's annals of sports history.

"I think this is a new chapter being written," he said.

Williams referred to comments from the announcers at the fight about Youngstown's great sports and boxing tradition, specifically mentioning Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini.

"Kelly Pavlik represented, first and foremost, himself and his family, but also the city and the Mahoning Valley in an exemplary fashion," the mayor said. "It was a tremendous feat and a tremendous accomplishment."

He was also impressed by the number of times the fighter mentioned the city.

Williams acknowledged he's not a boxing analyst, but believes, as some experts in the sport have opined, that the undercard fight between Pavlik and Edison Miranda should have been the main event.

That main attraction was the fight between JermainTaylor, the middleweight champion, and Cory Spinks. Taylor won the fight in a split decision by the judges.

When interviewed after his victory, Taylor was asked if he'd fight Pavlik. Williams said the champion evaded a direct answer, indicating that Taylor may see Pavlik as fists to be reckoned with in the ring.

State Rep. Robert Hagan, D-60th, of Youngstown, watched the fight Saturday night with his wife.

Sunday morning, he was watching it again with his son.

"It just gives the city of Youngstown and the people of Youngstown something positive to be proud of instead of something negative," Hagan said.

The state representative is impressed with Pavlik's loyalty to the area as well, pointing to how many times the boxer mentioned Youngstown after Saturday's win.

Online discussion

The Vindy.com discussion board shows popularity of Pavlik's fight stretches almost as far as his punches.

Scott Bondar, a 1998 Austintown Fitch High School graduate, is on active duty with the military and living in Virginia.

"I've been watching Pavlik fight for some time," Bondar wrote on Vindy.com. "I've been telling everyone on base about Pavlik and for (Saturday's) fight, I had about 40 of my friends who hadn't previously heard of him watching the fight. Everyone was impressed and I can't wait to host a big party for his next fight."

In an e-mail, Bondar said Pavlik's comments after the fight showed the fighter's character.

"I felt a lot of pride with him representing my hometown. Everyone in the military talks a lot about where they are from, and I think he is really putting Youngstown on the map," Bondar wrote. I think it also showed a lot of character on his part that he knows where he came from and acknowledges his fans in Youngstown."

The fight was emotional for the serviceman.

"I felt like he won the fight for every one of his fans in the Valley," Bondar wrote.

Others hope Pavlik's next fight is a little closer to home.

Anthony C. said on Vindy.com that he watched the fight with about 10 friends.

"We were loving everything about the fight and how Kelly Pavlik dominated. We are proud of Kelly and we hope to see him take down Jermain Taylor this summer at the Chevy Centre."

From the Mahoning valley to me in the Cuyahoga valley. Much love for the ghost around here. He is the poster child for northeast Ohio.+1 at ya agian.