Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
What your definition of a fighter having heart?

I know most will say or have been saying that Zab showed a lot of heart against cotto..and that gatti has heart....

but imo i think that gatti showed heart when he broke his hand against ward and kept fighting to a victory..but didn't show "heart" against mayweather because it was just stupid to stand there and constantly absorb punishment...

also i think roy jones showed "heart" in the first tarver fight to fight through tremendous amount of fatigue to the victory...

basically i don't think a fighter shows "heart" when he's doing nothing but absorbing punishment..like zab did...I think a fighter has to over come a major set back during the fight and fight through it win or lose to keep fighting despite the setback is what exemplifies "heart" to me..not to just constantly show that you can absorb punishment...

what do you guys think?
I agree with you. Generally whenever someone mentions a person having heart it means they have getting a beating, not just in boxing but in life. Little child has cancer then they have tremendous courage, person gets paralysed in a horrific accident then they are tremendously brave etc.

Having to display heart means you are a loser.

A winner on the other hand seldom gets anyone talking about their heart which is unfair.

To me Cotto had more heart than Zab. Zab just got beat up, thats it. If he had heart (and balls) he wouldn't have gone down 3 times in the fight. He wouldn't have looked for a way out against Floyd etc.