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[Trainer Monkey]

K.I.S.S.
Keep it simple stupid
Live it,love it

[Wintered]

thanks for the advice everyone, its much appreciated i like the idea of getting him to come in at me, the last ti me I fought him, it was like he just stood there until I decided to do something, so I would, and then I'd get hit in the process.

thanks again

[LegendBoxing65]

so I've had a few white collar fights since november, won my first three, then lost to a guy in february. I'm supposed to fight him again in about a month. (the events are just some exhibition fights that the two owners of the different gyms put together)

to put quite simply, this guy is quick as hell and has great reflexes. I've been told I've got a good jab, but I can't get it anywhere near this guy. He can bend his back to put it out of reach, and when I try to go in on him, he moves away real quickly. i could barely hit the guy, and almost every time i threw a right, i got counterpunched. when it comes to his punches, they aren't that great. they have little power, but he hits me more then i hit him. any tips on how to deal with a guy like this would be much appreciated.

what do you know about your wind and ability to brawl? Sounds like being aggressive might work on him if you do not get yourself too exhausted

[Lords Gym]

thanks for the advice everyone, its much appreciated i like the idea of getting him to come in at me, the last ti me I fought him, it was like he just stood there until I decided to do something, so I would, and then I'd get hit in the process.

thanks again

best of luck mate. you will do fine ! Cool Click #2

[Chris Nagel]

Good luck Wintered, why don't you give it shot since you have a good idea what you can do.

I wish I could have been more helpful, sometimes I get carried away and miss the point, it's a good thing we have guys like Lords Gym around, they keep to what's really important.

[Wintered]

Good luck Wintered, why don't you give it shot since you have a good idea what you can do.

I wish I could have been more helpful, sometimes I get carried away and miss the point, it's a good thing we have guys like Lords Gym around, they keep to what's really important.

hey your advice was awesome, i wouldnt say you got carried away at all

[bikersk]

Good luck!!! Let us know how you go. I liked Ice Cold and Chris N's advice of working the body. That should help to slow him down. And maybe have a think about what is the thing you could do that he would like the least. That may help to put the fight more on your terms rather than his.

[greynotsoold]

Can you hook off your jab? Leaning back like that will get him in trouble if you can, especially if he does this while against the ropes. When you jab he can step back, back, then he's on the ropes. When he leans back hook. Ali fought in a way that seems similar to how you describe your rival. Henry Cooper nearly killed him with a hook against the ropes, and Norton was pretty successful going to Ali's body when he leaned back. Whatever else you do don't reach for his head when he leans back; that enables him to pepper you with counters.

[Sharla]

So jabs are OK against this guy as long as you don't over reach?

[greynotsoold]

If I read it correctly, the guy leans back out of range of the jab, but counters primarily off the right. I don't know how that I would be throwing my jab so much to land it as to move him with it, and if I was stepping with it would depend on his reaction to it...
What I was referring to earlier was not reaching in general, with the jab and now, having re-read the initial post, the right hand. If you can get somebody throwing the right hand from too far away, to where you can pull back and have it come up short, they are there to be hit. PBF does this consistently. If he's pulling back and countering the right, try throwing it at his chest.

[Sharla]

CC greynotsoold - One of my potential opponents this year is a southpaw. In sparring last night I was basically told I'm too eager to start 1st and be aggressive. I was told southpaws love to counter the jab and I need to learn some patience to beat one.

I find it hard though because i lost some of my very early bouts by not being aggressive enough and now i overcompensate. I am an amateur so I don't feel I have enough time to really pressure someone and push them without charging.

But maybe it's enough to be moving them without connecting with every punch? Is that kinda what you're getting at? Do I understand you correctly?

[greynotsoold]

That is exactly it. Many times what you take from throwing a punch is not "damn I missed" but, instead, seeing what was done to make you miss, or what counter punch was thrown. You're trying to find patterns in the opponent's behavior and reactions, then you make him do something that you want him to do and make him pay for it.

[Sharla]

Thanks Greynotsoold - just hope I'm smart enough to work out how to do that quickly when I come across that southpaw

[greynotsoold]

A southpaw is mostly confusing from the outside. I think they are at a profound disadvantage in close. At the same time, if you have a height/reach advantage and keep your distance...Its an old saying that southpaws like to counter so make them lead.

[Sharla]

I have noticed that their jabbing arm seems to sit a bit wide - unless that's just the few southpaws i've come across. Does it make them vulnerable to body shots etc?