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Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Thats because its not an all powerful "god". The universe is way too big for any earth based religion to describe its existance reasonably. Science has come with the physics aspect of it but there are things that can't be understood. The true beginning happened somewhere in the middle. Religoin needs to accept some concepts froms science and science needs to accept some concepts from religion.

If this "god" in question is indeed all powerful, why would it create antimatter? If it could change matter however it wants, why would it make a second type of matter that wouldn't (under any circumstance) be able to interact with normal matter yet elements made of either have exactly the same properties? Either hydrogens are both light gases that are equally as unstable and weigh approximately the same. If you could set a universe in motion and edit mass and the laws of physics however you please, why have such a thing as antimatter? And gravity isn't just gravity, it varies alot from planet to planet and star to star. It's not even completely constant on earth as things weigh less near the equator than they do anywhere else.
I certainly accept all the 'scientific' research that gets done I just don't go along with any of the religion masquerading as science that evolutionists come out with.

If you have read Dawkins or Stephen Jay Gould you would have to accept that they deify the evolutionary process every bit as much as fundamentalist Christians talk about God.

To me science can explain physical processes to an extent but not give any reasons beyond that. Both Christianity and science agrees that the universe had a beginning, and that at a specific point in time the heavens were created.

A religious person ascribes this great and miraculous event to a designer, an evolutionist ascribes it to nothing....literally nothing. First there was nothing, then it exploded.

That's not science that's as crazy a creation myth as anything from the ancient world.
Maybe my concept of evolution is a bit different than their's because i fully believe you can't just have matter lying around that came from nowhere. To me evolution wasn't just a lucky occurance, It was chance, environment and naturally born ability all rolled into one.
But chance, enviroment and naturally born ability are all ultimately meaningless statements. If there were once nothing, literally nothing then there is no such thing as enviroment or naturally born ability.

If there always 'something' then where did that come from?

What does naturally born ability even mean seeing as the creation of a universe is the most unnatural event that could ever happen?
Naturally born ability to evolve in one way or another. I'm saying (just like with mass) once life was created (amoebas and stuff likie that), you couldn't upgrade/evolve a large amount of it into a superior species over a short period of time or it wouldn't of panned out. The creation of life was intentional and direct. While this semi powerful "god" could create it and maybe even guide its developement, you'd have to also believe that some of the changes that happened between life across the universe was their own doing to an extent. I'm not saying they could control it directly but there's a psychology theory that might back this up. There's a theory that in every human brain lies an area that is a record of that human's ancestors. It's not trivial stuff like how much they spent on something or how many animals they killed at one time but it was basically a record of how they've adapted over generations (i'm not exactly sure how it was worded, but thats roughly what the theory stated). If other animals have a similar but not as complex area in their brain as well, maybe it would sub consciously push towards an evolutionary change. This theory's not proven, i'm just throwing it out there.

I'm not saying they chose exactly how they'd go about it (like "if i was 50 times bigger i could probably be on top of the food chanin and then poof their offspring is huge") but i think every creature was given the birth right to adapt in a way that its environment might suggest it to.

In closing somethings were done intentionally and somethings happened by accident. For starters, the earth has no business having a moon the size that it does. The earth shouldn't technically have enough gravitational pull to capture an object of that size thats just floating thru space yet without a moon of roughly that size, earth wouldn't be inhabitable by larger species because the tides would be violently unpredictable and we wouldn't have liveable weather patterns. This was supposedly (according tot he best available theory) a result of two planets colliding and the result was the impacted plant resulting in the earth we live on today and the scraps from the collision centered around a chunk of the other planet and formed our moon. If the impacting planet had been bigger of smaller, it wouldn't of worked out the same way so was the statistically improbable event intentional or just a freak accident? I dunno, it's hard to judge that kinda stuff.