Could we have a Movies,documentaries and music concert thread or sticky please?

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Anyone think this would be good if we archive all the films etc in one place as there loads of cracking films i've posted but they're all over the shop!! I got loads of good documentarys,films and gigs i could share
Like a sort of Media thread i guess and imo would be a good string to the bow and im not aware of any other fight sight that has one
Call it the chill out room

[Wadeb_21]

Anyone think this would be good if we archive all the films etc in one place as there loads of cracking films i've posted but they're all over the shop!! I got loads of good documentarys,films and gigs i could share
Like a sort of Media thread i guess and imo would be a good string to the bow and im not aware of any other fight sight that has one
Call it the chill out room

I like this idea also. I know I would requent the thread often. Hope it happens. Good idea Smash.

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Anyway if a no no it's cool (i respect the gaffers wishes) but allow me to share a Robert De Niro selection with you

De Niro Classics

Jackie Brown : http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1321413 (New)

Heat : http://movies.nabolister.com/links_page?movie=1032

Ronin : http://openflv.com/watch?v=NDIyNTkwMQ==&p=0

Godsend : http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1264577

Meet the parents : http://www.meyepop.com/movies.php?mo......ion&id=264#

Meet the Fockers : Part 1 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom
Part 2 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom
Part 3 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom
Part 4 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom
Part 5 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1pj5s_meetthefockers5
Part 6 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom
Part 7 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom
Part 8 : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...wwpenduboyscom

The Score : http://joox.net/cat/cat/2/id/1255468

:Alternative Link : Part 1 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjgxNjA3Ng

Part 2 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjgxNjEwNA

Part 3 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjgxNjYyOA

Part 4 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjgxNjgxMg

Part 5 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjgxNjkyNA


Casino : http://movies-links.blogspot.com/200...sino_4590.html

The Godfather 1,2 and 3 : http://openflv.com/watch?v=ODg2NDE4Mg==&p=0

Goodfellas : http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1312968

Raging Bull : http://stage6.divx.com/user/yahari_m...ng_bullll_1980

Taxi Driver : http://movies.nabolister.com/links_page?movie=1140

The Deer Hunter : http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDQwNA (CREDIT GOES TO BETTYJO!)

Part 1 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDU5Ng

Part 2 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDQ4MA

Part 3 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDU1Mg

Part 4 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDcxNg

Part 5 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDYwOA

Part 6 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDc1Ng

Part 7 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDY0OA

Part 8 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDc0OA

Part 9 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMDk5Ng

Part 10 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIyMTAxMg


88 Minutes : Part 1 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNDU3NzI2MA (CREDIT GOES TO BETTYJO!!)

Part 2 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNDU3NzQ0OA

Part 3 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNDU3NzQ2OA

Part 4 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNDU3NDg4MA

Part 5 http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNDU3NDkzNg

Heres a Penn classic from 1983

Chicago crime kid Mick O'Brien has been sent to a juvenile prison for vehicular manslaughter. Most unfortunately, the person he kills is the kid brother of his nemesis Paco Moreno, who vows revenge by raping Mick's girlfriend. Paco is caught and sent to the same prison where he re-works his revenge plan, and Mick has no choice but to defend himself.

Bad Boys parts 1,2 and 3
http://stage6.divx.com/?notice=401
http://stage6.divx.com/?notice=401
http://stage6.divx.com/?notice=401

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These documentaries can be got easily also

100 reasons why evolution is so stupid.
1978 BBC Documentary 'Fear and Loathing in Gonzovision'
1991 - The Year Punk Broke
20/20 Stupid in America
2012 Collection (add more)
30 days as a muslim (Morgan Spurlock doc)
9/11: The Great Illusion (End Game of the Illuminati)
911 the greatest lie ever sold by anthony hilder
911 the greatest lies ever

A
A Chink in the Armour
A Cow At My Table
A look into the Future behind the big news
A&E Biography- Jeffery Dahmer
Aerosol Crimes (Chemtrails)
Afghan Massacre: Convoy of Death (2002)
AI : building gods (rough cut)
Aid to Tibet
Aldous Huxley - The gravity of light 1966 - 1hr 7mins
Aleister Crowley - the other loch ness monster
Alex Jones Comprehensive Annual Financial reports exposed
Alien Gods
America: From Freedom To Facism
America:From Freedom to fascism(High Quality link)
American Blackout
American Dictators
American Dictators
An Evening With Howard Marks
An Inconvenient Truth
An Islamic History of Europe(bbc)
Anarchism in America
Ancient Rome - BBC documentaries - (58 mins)
Ancient Warriors of Macedonia
Andy Warhol - Artist Extraordinaire
Andy Warhol (1987)
Ape to Man
Apollo 11 The Untold Story (Discovery - 47 mins)
Apollo 15 in the mountains of the moon
Parallel Universes - BBC
Art Bell interview with Col. Philip Corso - Roswell UFO
ATLLAS: Hood Famous (The Documentary)

B
B52 Stratofortress - 45 mins - Discovery Channel
Boeing 747 - Great Planes (DSC)
Boeing B-52 Stratofortress - Great Planes (DSC)
Babylon Mystery: Nebuchadnezzar
Babylon Mystery
Battle for Islam
Battle of the Bogside
BBC - The Lost Gospels
BBC 3/Discovery: Mind, body and kick a** moves
BBC Civilisation: missing numbers
BBC Doc: The Life of Buddha
BBC Rageh Inside Iran (What do we know about Iran?)
BBC Space Odyssey - Voyage to the Planets
BBC What the Ancients did for us : The Islamic World
BBC Worlds Most Powerful - Bill Gates v Steve Jobs
Beyond Human - Heaven's Gate Cult - Classroom Video Session
Big Brother, Big Business
Big Science Savant - Kim Peek
BILL HICKS LAST VIDEO INTERVIEW
Bill Hicks Outlaw Comic
Bodyshock - Born With Two Heads
Bodyshock - Half Ton Man
Bodyshock - Kill Me to Cure Me
Bodyshock - The 80 Year Old Children
Bosnia's Valley of the Pyramids
Bowling for Columbine
Brotherhood of darkness
Building Gods Rough Cut
Burroughs
Bush Family Fortunes:The best democracy money can buy (2004)
Busted - The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters

C
Cali Lifestyles 1-2
Cant stop eating!
Carl Jung - The wisdom of the dream
Chemtrails: Clouds Of Death
Children of the secret state
Children of the Secret State
Chris Langan - Smartest man in the world
Cinema Europe - 6 part Film History documentary
Classic Albums : Elvis
Climate Change (BBC)
Cocaine Cowboys
Codename Artichoke (DSC)
Cold War
Computer Networks (MIT)
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man part 1 2 and 3
Conspiracy of Silence: Banned National Geographic
Crackheads out of Control
Creation of the Computer - 48 mins
Crimes of Zionism
Cryonics death in the deep freeze
Cyber War (DSC)

D
Dark Secrets - Inside The Mind Of A Mafia Hitman
David Attenborough collection (please add more)
David Icke - Secrets of the Matrix
David icke . was he right ?
Dawkins : the virus of faith
Death Of A President
Death of Yugoslavia
Deep Sea UFO's
Depleted Uranium
Desperate Wives - Kay Griggs Interview
Did we really land Men on the Moon?
Disbelief (Moscow attacks)
Discovery Channel Supermassive Black Holes
Dispatches - Supermarket Secret
Dispatches- Cash for peers
Dispatches: Iraq, the Women's Story
Dispatches: Iraq's Missing Billions
Dispatches: Spinning Terror
Dispatches: Stealing Your Freedom
Dispatches: Supermarket Secrets
Dispatches: The Data Theft Scandal
Dispatches: The Killing Zone
Dispatches-Women Only Jihad
Dogfight over Guadalcanal
Do schools today kill creativity? (TEDTalks, Ken Robinson)
Dolphins Are Deep Thinkers
Dope Sick Love
Douglas Adams - Hyperland (1990)
Dr. Michael Parenti: "Terrorism, Globalism and Conspira
Dr. Michael Parenti: Race, Gender and Class Struggle
Dr Money and the Boy with no Penis
Drug Wars


E
Earthlings
East ended : the real story of eastenders
Eat This! (Vegetarian vs. Meat-Eating)
Eddie izzard
Einsteins biggest blunder
End Day(BBC)
Enron Bankruptcy (1hr)
Equinox: It Runs on Water (free energy, 1995)
Everybodys gotta learn (more 911)
Evidence-The case for NASA UFO's
Evolution - Why Sex?
Exploring life extension
Exposed-The Carlyle Group

F
From deserts - BBC Nature
Factory Farming Today
Fahrenheit 9/11
Fallujah - The Hidden Massacre
Fastwalkers - UFO and Alien Disclosure
Fastwalkers
Fear and Loathing on the Road to Hollywood
Fela Kuti - Music is the Weapon
Feral Children (Raised by animals)
Fidel The Untold Story
Fight Science
Fractals-Gods fingerprint
Freedom Fuels
Freemasons - U.S conspiracy mini documentary
Frontline Soccer:Palestine vs. Iraq
Frontline: Cyber War
Frontline: History of Credit Cards
Future car:The Fuel

G
Game Over
Gaza Strip Documentary
Genetically Modified Food - panacea or poison?
Genghis Khan
Gladio . the real story of global power
Global Warming, what you need to know
Globalisation is Good - Johan Norberg on Globalization
God's Next Army (2006)
Going Tribal-The horse Masters of Mongolia
Google: The Machine
Grow Dutch(Marijuana documentary)

H
Hacking Democracy
HBO Legendary Fights - Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis Docu
The Dinosaur that Fooled the World - BBC
Hidden Symbols (Illuminati/Freemasonry/Occult)
High on Crack Street
Hiroshima The story of droping the bomb
Hiroshima
History of final fantasy
History of the iPod (Discovery - 43mins)
History of Video Games (Discovery - 46mins)
History of Video Games
Hitler Speaks
Holy war inc .
Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way
Hooligans: The untold story
How Things work - Collection
Hugo Chavez
Human Computation
HUMAN V.20 (Horizon - 47mins)
Humpback Whales
Hunter S. Thompson : Breakfast with Hunter
Hunter S. Thompson: 1978 BBC Documentary "Fear and Loathing
Hunter ST and keith Richards


I
If Drugs Were Legal
Life of Gandhi - (5hrs 10min)
IMAX - Antartica
IMAX - Blue Planet
IMAX - The Dream Is Alive
Ibiza, Drugland
Incarcerated Scarfaces
Incident at Loch Ness
Injection (health care)
Inside NORAD - Cheyenne Mountain (Nat Geo - 43mins)
Interview with Bob Marley
Invisibly Visible
Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers (2006)
Iraq: A hidden story
Iraq: The Death Squads
Iraq: The Hidden Story
Islam: Empire of Faith
Israel/Palestine


J
Jack Here- Emperor of Hemp
Jack The Ripper BIO
Japan's mysterious pyramids
Jehovah's Witnesses Exposed (watchtower society)
Jesus Camp - 1 click
Jet Li Presents Shaolin Kung Fu(Documentary)
JFK II: The Bush Connection
Jihad TV (2006)
Jimi Hendrix & Band of Gypsys
John Pilger- Cambodia-The Betrayal
John Pilger- Cambodia-Year Zero
john Pilger- death of a Nation
John Pilger- Palestine is still the issue
John Pilger-Breaking the Mirror(The Murdoch Effect)
John Pilger-Flying the Flag(Arming the World)
John Pilger-Inside Burma,land of fear
John Pilger-The New Rulers of The World
John Pilger-War by Other Means
Journalists under Fire: 'Nam and 'Raq

K
Keep off the Grass (1969)
Khubilai Khan-fall of the Mongol Hordes

L
Lab movie of a postmortem autopsy
Lenny Bruce! - Swear to tell the Truth (comedy docu, A+)
License To Kill
Life in The Undergrowth
Life in The Undergrowth
Life on Earth - 12 part documentary (BBC)
London_on_the_trail_of_jack_the_ripper
Loose Change 2nd Edition
Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark
Louis and the Black Supremacists - BBC
Louis and the Nazis - BBC
LSD - The Beyond Within
LTJ Bukem Documentary (Drum 'n Bass DJ)
Ludicrous Diversion 7/7 London Bombings
Lysergic acid diethylamide

M
MAHATMA - Life of Gandhi, (5hrs 10min)
Magic Weed - History of Marijuana
Magical Egypt
Making Millions the Easy Way
Manga Mania
Manufacturing Consent:Naom Chomsky and the media
March of the Penguins
Matrix Of Evil - Alex Jones
McLibel - Two People Who Wouldn't Say Sorry
Meet Your Meat
Megadeth behind the music
Mike Vs Tyson
Million Dollar Motors - Extreme Machines (DSC)
Militainment Inc.
Mind Altering Drugs
Mission to Africa
Mind the Gap
Mindshock - Sex On The Brain
Mindshock - Sleepwalk Terrors
Mindshock - Transplanting Memories?
Mindshock: Transplanting Memories
Mission Accomplished (Iraq)
MK Ultra Mind Control - Cathy O'Brien
Monsters Of The Universe - NOVA (Black Holes)
Most current up date for North Korea report by BBC
Most of our Universe is Missing
MotoAfryka2005 - english subtitles
Mr Death
Myths & Logic of Shaolin Kung-Fu

N
Nanotopia
NASA - Hubble view of the universe
NASA Connect - Ancient Observatories: Timeless Knowledge
National Geographic - 21 Days to Baghdad (2003)
National Geographic - The Worlds Most Dangerous Drug - METH
National Geographic: Fight Science
Navy Seals Training
Nazis: The Occult Conspiracy
Near Death Experience
New Orleans: Big Easy To Big Empty
New York City Hackers
NG: The worlds most dangerous gangs: Mara Salvatrucha MS-13
Nicaragua (John Pilger)
Nice guys finish first - Richard Dawkins
Nutricide: Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs


O
ObscuredTV
Oklahoma City: What Really Happened?
On Piracy, Radio & Walmarts (2006)
On Piracy
On the Edge of Blade Runner
One Inch Punch Documentary
Operation Hollywood
Orwell rolls in his grave
Our Brand is Crisis
Our Friend Saddam
OutFOXed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
Outlaw Comic: The Censoring of Bill Hicks
Owning the weather
Ozzy Osbourne Dont Blame Me - The Tales Of Ozzy Osbourne

P
Pallywood: "According to Palestinian Sources"
Panama Deception
Paradise Found
Parkour. Jump Britain
PBS Frontline: Dozens of High Quality Doccumentaries
Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land
Pete Doherty Arena Documentary (Nov. 12th 2006)
Peter Jennings - Ecstasy Rising
Pink Floyd - The Making of Dark Side of the Moon
Planet Earth
Prescription for Disaster - (1hr 32mins)
Prisoners of Katrina (2006)
Protocols of the elders of Zion


Q
QSS

R
Race to Zero Point
Race
Recycled Lives
Reefer Madness
Reign of the Fallen 2005
Reincarnation = Fact of Fiction?
Richest People Of The Middle East (DSC)
Ross Kemp on gangs
Ross Kemp x 4 Gangland Documentaries (updated)

S
Samurai
SAS - Special Air Service - episodes 1, 3 & 5
Satanism & the CIA - Ted Gunderson
Scientology and the clearwater police
Scratch (turntablism documentary)
Search for Alien Planets
Secret Space
Secrets Of The Freemasons
Secrets of the Mayan Calendar
Sex Crimes and the Vatican
Shamans of the Amazon-Ayahuasca documentary
Shaolin one(another kung fu documentary)
Sigmund Freud:Analysis of a mind
Skinhead Attitude
Skull and Bones (1hr 10 mins)
Slavery - A Global Investigation (1hr 18mins)
Soviet Afghan war
Space - a 6 part BBC Documentary
Spinning Terror
SporeIt
Steal this film
Steal this Film
Stealing a Nation (2004)
Stoned in suburbia
Stupidity
Style Wars (1983)
Sumerian origin of humans
Supermassive Blackholes (BBC)
Surplus Consumerism
Sweet Misery:Aspartame Documentary
Startup.com

T
Terence McKenna Documentaries
Terror Storm (Alex Jones) Excellent Revealing Documentary
Terrorists, Killers And Middle East Wackos
Tesla - The Genius Who Lit The World
Tetris - From Russia With Love
The Amityville Horror(The Killer)
The Art of Flight (2005)
The Bermuda Triangle (BBC)
The Blind & The Dead (crazy evangenical christians)
The Bloody History Of Communism
The Brickyard: Home of All the Junkies
The Cannabis Years (BBC)
The Case for Antigravity
The Case For Impeachment
The Century Of The Self
The Code Linux
The Control Room
The Corporation(Filmmakers official download edition)
The Corporation
The Cu Chi tunnels
The Cult of the Suicide Bomber
The Day Britain Stopped
The Death Star (43 mins)
The Decline Of Western Civilization
The doomsday code
The elegant universe part 1 - 3
The End of Suburbia: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of...
The Fluoride Deception
The Future of Mankind (2012) Michael Tsarion
The Future of Food
The Game-Documentary
The Genius Sperm Bank - BBC
The God Delusion
The Great Year - (46mins)
The Ground Truth
The Guantanamo Guidebook (torture methods)
The Hemp Revolution
The History of hackers (Discovery Channel) 50 minutes.
The History Of Hacking
The Illuminati (Volumes 1 & 2)
The Illuminati 1 - The Hidden Rulers of the World
The Journey of Man
The Kursk, A Submarine in Troubled Waters (2004)
The Larry Davis Story - A Routine typical Hit
The Legend of Atlantis
The Lightbringers (Freemasonry)
The Lizards & The Jews (David Icke)
The lost gospels
The Man With 80 wives
The Man With 80 Wives
The Many Faces of Lee Harvey Oswald
The Money Trap - How Banks Lure You Into Debt (39mins)
The Money Trap
The Mysterious Origins of Man
The Naked Truth
The Occult Experience (1987)
The Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror
The Order Of Death (Bohemian Grove)
The Origins of AIDS
The Pharmacratic Inquisition
The power of nightmares
The Police State - 4 Documentaries
The private life of plants
The Punk Rock movie (197
The REAL Face of The European Union
The Real Da Vinci Code
The richest people of the middle east - 45 mins
The Rise of China on the World Stage
The Rise of The Politics of Fear
The Secret Evil Of 9/11
The Secret Life of Brian (Monty Python doc)
The Secret Underground Lectures of Commander X
The secrets of the cia . 2hrs
The Stanford prison experiment - Psychology of Imprisonment
The Story of 1
The Story of Enzo Ferrari
The Ten Deadliest Snakes in the World
The Trials of Henry Kissinger
The Trouble with Atheism (C4 - 47mins)
The True Story of Blackhawk Down
The Truth About Medical Marijuana
The Uniqueness of the Human Brain
The Velvet Underground - History
The Verichip - Human Implantable Microchip
The Virus of Faith
The War Behind Closed Doors
The War on Science
The War Tapes
The woman who thinks like a cow
The Worlds first Time Machine
The World's First Time Machine - BBC
The world's strangest ufo stories
The Yes Men - (1hr 22mins)
This is Coffee
This is what Democracy looks like
Thug Angle: Tupac
THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS
Tibet - Lost Civilisations
Tibet The Story Of A Tragedy
Tom Waits - A Day in Vienna (+)
Total Enslavement
Truth 9/11
Tsarion: the destruction of atlantis


U
UFO files- Black box UFO secrets
UFO: Secrets of the 3rd Reich
UFO-Top secret military and government witnesses speak
Uncle Saddam (2000)
Unconstitutional War on Civil Liberties (2004)
Uncovered-The whole Truth about the Iraq War
Underground Bases & Greys - Phil Schneider
Unembedded: Independent Photographers in Iraq
Unprecedented - The 2000 Presidential Election
Unreported World: Brazil Slum Warfare
Us Skinheads

V
Vaccination: The Hidden Truth
Vatican Assassins

W
Waco: The Rules of Engagement
Walking With Cavemen
Wal-Mart - The High Cost of Low Prices
War against the Third World
AWar On Science (Intelligent Design and Dover)
Warrior Empire:The Mughals
We Interrupt This Empire
Warriors of the French Foreign Legion
Weapons Of Mass Deception
Welcome To Deathrow Special (Full)
Welcome To North Korea
What Is Fascism?
What The Bleep Do We Know
What the Bleep Do We Know 2
Where mind and matter meets - Bruce Lipton
Who Controls our Children? (PE dumbing down our youths)
Who Controls The World?
Who Killed John O' Neill (9/11)
Who killed the electric car?
Who Killed the Electric Car
Who The F is Pete Doherty
Who wrote the Bible?
Why are we here?
Why politicians can't tell the truth
Why We Fight
Wild Weather - Wind
Will Israel Bomb Iran?
Wiring the world - 1hr 2mins
World's Scariest Ghosts: Caught on Tape

[Trainer Monkey]

1991 The Year Punk Broke
What the hell was I listening to all through the 80s?

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hahaha
Could mean 1 of 2 things

[CutMeMick]

Smash as soon as I get the time I will attempt to merge all the topics you've posted into 1 thread.

About the sticky we do have one in the File Sharing Board so maybe I can move it the one thread I will merge there and merge it there?

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Smash as soon as I get the time I will attempt to merge all the topics you've posted into 1 thread.

About the sticky we do have one in the File Sharing Board so maybe I can move it the one thread I will merge there and merge it there?

Sounds good fella and to be honest that may be the safest place as i'm not to flash on the legality side of all this sort of stuff

[Kev]

Great links.

I'm watching 100 reasons why evolution is so stupid right now.

Good stuff, very interesting Punisher would like this............

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It won't work for me

[Saddo]

Smash as soon as I get the time I will attempt to merge all the topics you've posted into 1 thread.

About the sticky we do have one in the File Sharing Board so maybe I can move it the one thread I will merge there and merge it there?

good stuff Cutme and smash CC's

[Kev]

Well I just finished watching the 100 reasons why evolution is stupid seminar. As some might remember I've always been a strong advocate that evolution is utter bollocks anyhow and this seminar confirmed that.

It's really interesting though and well worth watching although it is 2 hours long!

What really saddened me though was that after watching the video and seeing how passionate the host Kent Hovind seemed about his work and how sincere, I googled him to see what else he has done.

To my shock I see that earlier this year he was sentenced to 10 years in jail for assault and battery, falsely declaring bankruptcy, making threats against federal officials, filing false complaints, failing to get necessary building permits, and various tax-related charges!

This really upsets me to be honest. I mean a regular scientist who turns out to be a crook is no big deal but a guy like this who has such a worldy responsibility to let down his family, church, community and I guess his God is just really disheartening to me.

It just makes me feel at least like everybody on the planet is just out for them selves, selfish and greedy and that you can't trust anyone.

Got me a bit depressed to be honest.

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Die hard 4
http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/diehard.html

[Punisher136]

Well I just finished watching the 100 reasons why evolution is stupid seminar. As some might remember I've always been a strong advocate that evolution is utter bollocks anyhow and this seminar confirmed that.

It's really interesting though and well worth watching although it is 2 hours long!

What really saddened me though was that after watching the video and seeing how passionate the host Kent Hovind seemed about his work and how sincere, I googled him to see what else he has done.

To my shock I see that earlier this year he was sentenced to 10 years in jail for assault and battery, falsely declaring bankruptcy, making threats against federal officials, filing false complaints, failing to get necessary building permits, and various tax-related charges!

This really upsets me to be honest. I mean a regular scientist who turns out to be a crook is no big deal but a guy like this who has such a worldy responsibility to let down his family, church, community and I guess his God is just really disheartening to me.

It just makes me feel at least like everybody on the planet is just out for them selves, selfish and greedy and that you can't trust anyone.

Got me a bit depressed to be honest.

Sounds like a credible witness to me :P

Bilbo you have to accept that evolution occured on atleast some level. If evolution was "stupid" the cold virus would've died out millions of years ago but guess what its still here because it .... wait for it.... wait for it.... EVOLVES immunity to antibiotics (and medicines that are used to treat viruses since antibiotics do not treat viruses) that WE developed. Now if evolution was completely impossible and illogical, how would these viruses and bacteria (that were here long before us) be able to adapt to stuff that we have made over the past 50 years? Is there a cult meeting once every week where all the viruses meet together and their pope tells them how to adapt to medicines?

[Kev]

Well I just finished watching the 100 reasons why evolution is stupid seminar. As some might remember I've always been a strong advocate that evolution is utter bollocks anyhow and this seminar confirmed that.

It's really interesting though and well worth watching although it is 2 hours long!

What really saddened me though was that after watching the video and seeing how passionate the host Kent Hovind seemed about his work and how sincere, I googled him to see what else he has done.

To my shock I see that earlier this year he was sentenced to 10 years in jail for assault and battery, falsely declaring bankruptcy, making threats against federal officials, filing false complaints, failing to get necessary building permits, and various tax-related charges!

This really upsets me to be honest. I mean a regular scientist who turns out to be a crook is no big deal but a guy like this who has such a worldy responsibility to let down his family, church, community and I guess his God is just really disheartening to me.

It just makes me feel at least like everybody on the planet is just out for them selves, selfish and greedy and that you can't trust anyone.

Got me a bit depressed to be honest.

Sounds like a credible witness to me :P

Bilbo you have to accept that evolution occured on atleast some level. If evolution was "stupid" the cold virus would've died out millions of years ago but guess what its still here because it .... wait for it.... wait for it.... EVOLVES immunity to antibiotics (and medicines that are used to treat viruses since antibiotics do not treat viruses) that WE developed. Now if evolution was completely impossible and illogical, how would these viruses and bacteria (that were here long before us) be able to adapt to stuff that we have made over the past 50 years? Is there a cult meeting once every week where all the viruses meet together and their pope tells them how to adapt to medicines?

Yes certainly I believe in adaptation or natural selection if you want to call it that but not evolution on a macro scale. I've never found a single piece of evidence that supports macro evolution I just don't see how it can happen.

The trouble is scientists have managed to convince people that natural selection and macro evolution are the same thing and that therefore proofs of natural selection are proof for evolution and this is just completely and utterly untrue.

Nobody doubts that organisms can adapt and change but ONLY according to the DNA asnd genetic information that is already present within them.

I look at it this way. If you are playing a computer game or using a piece of software there may be options within that game to alter details to your requirments, different resolutions, varying amounts of graphical details, EAX enabled sound, difficulty leves, inverted mouse option, etc. All of these options can make your version of the game run slightly different to somebody elses version of the game. Cheat codes can change things even more.

However none of these changes can possibly result in new game content that wasn't there before and your game won't become a different game. The only way for that to happen would be for new information, in the way of downloadable content from the game developers or the modding community that you could then add to the game to add new information that wasn't there before.

Genetic life is much the same. The preexisting DNA code can be manipulated by natural selection to tailor an organism specifically to its enviroment. However the only way it could ever turn into something else would be for new information to be added to its DNA.