Yes thats what i mean so that things are nice and symatrical but i sometimes find that a little too narrow but on the other hand i always feel the more square i get with my stance the jab dosent really feel right,i guess its coz you are unable to get the shoulder behind the punch and it becomes just an arm punch,i remember someone on this forum once reffering to tipping off the jab,i wonder if this was what they were reffering to...