Quote Originally Posted by Sharla
Quote Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
"god" isn't all powerful and the numbers scientists are trying to shove down peoples throats are inaccurate. Accept that.
I'm always astounded when people talk about scientists in these debates as having one common agenda that goes against something or someone else like religion.

The fact is that they're a bunch of individuals who don't want to be known for be frauds or producing work that is not good quality.

They critique each other's publications brutally as they are often in competition with each other or at the least are passionate about what they think is good science.

You won't get a group of scientists covering for each other, especially worldwide. There a lot of different funding bodies for any type of research and there's no way they'd all be persuaded to sell something they don't believe is true.

Scientists can only look at the evidence they are able to find. They are not perfect. Some will make mistakes somtimes which is why other scientists must be brutal when deciding whether or not to let someone else's work be published.

I have heard of the occaisional fraud but ultimately they will be exposed - by OTHER scientist who want their jobs and their funding and have real results that contradict the lies and they want to publish them.

The scientific community is not one evil force trying to decieve people.
The numbers they (and by they i mean most and by most i mean the widely recognized and "respected" ones) have come with are completely fraudulant. One of their "ground-breaking" ideas has it pegged that the universe we live in, which is composed of 3d objects (4 is you count our own consciousness), has to have 10,11, or 26 total physical dimensions for their theories to work. You can only have a stable physical existance in a 3d object. The objects they project to be 4d, 5d and even 26d, can actually be made into 3d models (if you make them solid OR in skeleton form) therefor negating the fact that its possible for another physical dimension. They draw it as a see-thru object but well over 99% of all 3d objects aren't square or for that matter a skelton type model of themselves so saying these models are a farce is fairly easy to prove.

Alot of their universal creation theories (including their big bang debacle) are riddled with the phrase "and then something happened". They have focues on numbers for way too long and numbers don't back everything up. There are numbers out there that HAVE to exist because if they didn't, mathematic formulas wouldn't work out yet we are unable to compute or even ballpark a comprehendable number (they have come up with the symbol i to represent the square root of negative one) for for the square root of negative numbers (this sounds petty but they are very significant when computing forces of nature and infact a lot of situations require them to be put in).

Numbers are limited and trying to find out everything just soley with numbers can't be done. I could also go into the fraudulant numbers when it comes to the scientific community (and again by that i mean those that people want to pay attention to) on glonal warming, but i'll save that for another time when they really start to set themselves up for it.