Quote Originally Posted by Lyle

Many people complain about the clinching Wlad does, let's compare shall we?

John Ruiz: holds for no other reason than his boxing skills are crap and that's the only way he can win

Wladimir Klitschko: much like the Manny Steward trained LENNOX LEWIS holds and pushes for tactical reasons which make him all the more dominant.

that's pure nonesense. Ruiz, Klitchko and Lewis all hold for the same reasons. Because THEIR CHINS ARE MUSH. Hence the only way of avoiding getting hit at close quarters is via the clinch.

Ruiz did it against Holyfield. Lewis did it against Tua, and Tyson, and Wladimir did it against Peters and somewhat against Byrd.

"Hold and Pushes for tactical reasons" HAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHHAAHEHEHALOL the way you say that, you should be into politics.

Holding and Pushing has always been a favorite recommendation of manny steward. It keeps those short powerful arms, of those short stocky boxers away from unleashing brutal combinations on the chiny chin chin of his tall hevies.

Ruiz likewise does this. And he is quite sensible for doing this, since being obliterated by Tua in what 10 seconds.

There all the same. Its just that Ruiz doesn't give beautiful KOES. Actually he doesn't KO anyone. He jabs and clinches his way to victories.