Breaking News: They finally caught Shane Mosley

[Trainer Monkey]

Until they have solid proof they should shut the F*** up. Every media asshole wants to be Elliot Ness and snag another evil dooer, and its just getting rediculous.

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AmDS2utyrD9lU6bXPId2JcaUxLYF?slug=ap-mosley-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns

[ICB]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3041449

Just in case no-one believes it,he admits to taking it. I have 2 problems with this:

1.) this statement-"I didn't know anything about that stuff," Mosley said. "It was something given to me, pushed up on me. I'm a health freak-type of guy. I like to have everything organic, natural." That's the biggest contradiction I've seen. How can a self admitted health freak not be aware of what he has taken/forced upon him?

2.) Just because it's Shane Mosley,an admittedly nice guy,people are saying,"oh it doesn't matter etc etc" BS. Imagine,if this was Mayweather or Judah. Both are asses but imagine of they had taken these drugs,"unkowningly". We know for a FACT that people on this forum would be ripping them to shreds.And that's a fact. I'm not one for double standards but nice guy or not,Mosley has gotten away with this too lightly.

I don't know man,he's admitted it himself so NO ONE can edeny he took them. His nice guy image is still genuine but I'm not letting it blind my thinking on the situation. I take back what I said about the timing,it's not as if it's something new,it's been an on going investigation.

Once again Gamo your comments are right on the money. Mosley has admitted he took steroids (supposedly unknowingly) and it should matter to boxing fans because that should change how he looked against Oscar and who knows who else. This brings up many questions: Is Shane not as fast as he has shown in the past? Is Shane really that strong? Does Shane really have great stamina as he has shown in the past?

Since Mosley is not a jerk like Bonds and McGuire, most people will surely forgive him (I still think the guy has class and respect for others). In fact, I hope his fight with Cotto goes on as scheduled. But his confession should change how fans view him as a boxer, not so much as a person (though cheaters are hard to respect in general).

because that should change how he looked against Oscar and who knows who else. This brings up many questions: Is Shane not as fast as he has shown in the past? Is Shane really that strong? Does Shane really have great stamina as he has shown in the past?

Uhh he didn't look that good in the rematch Oscar should of won the rematch he almost doubled Mosley in punch output so if Mosley did take something before the rematch with Oscar it couldn't of been that good could it

[Rican]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3041449

Just in case no-one believes it,he admits to taking it. I have 2 problems with this:

1.) this statement-"I didn't know anything about that stuff," Mosley said. "It was something given to me, pushed up on me. I'm a health freak-type of guy. I like to have everything organic, natural." That's the biggest contradiction I've seen. How can a self admitted health freak not be aware of what he has taken/forced upon him?

2.) Just because it's Shane Mosley,an admittedly nice guy,people are saying,"oh it doesn't matter etc etc" BS. Imagine,if this was Mayweather or Judah. Both are asses but imagine of they had taken these drugs,"unkowningly". We know for a FACT that people on this forum would be ripping them to shreds.And that's a fact. I'm not one for double standards but nice guy or not,Mosley has gotten away with this too lightly.

I don't know man,he's admitted it himself so NO ONE can edeny he took them. His nice guy image is still genuine but I'm not letting it blind my thinking on the situation. I take back what I said about the timing,it's not as if it's something new,it's been an on going investigation.

Once again Gamo your comments are right on the money. Mosley has admitted he took steroids (supposedly unknowingly) and it should matter to boxing fans because that should change how he looked against Oscar and who knows who else. This brings up many questions: Is Shane not as fast as he has shown in the past? Is Shane really that strong? Does Shane really have great stamina as he has shown in the past?

Since Mosley is not a jerk like Bonds and McGuire, most people will surely forgive him (I still think the guy has class and respect for others). In fact, I hope his fight with Cotto goes on as scheduled. But his confession should change how fans view him as a boxer, not so much as a person (though cheaters are hard to respect in general).

because that should change how he looked against Oscar and who knows who else. This brings up many questions: Is Shane not as fast as he has shown in the past? Is Shane really that strong? Does Shane really have great stamina as he has shown in the past?

Uhh he didn't look that good in the rematch Oscar should of won the rematch he almost doubled Mosley in punch output so if Mosley did take something before the rematch with Oscar it couldn't of been that good could it

Let's not forget that Mosley, from round 9 on was able to outwork Oscar. Though Oscar is known for losing stamina as the fight goes on, Mosely seemed to have another gear. In fact, Mosley said: "I knew I hurt him. He never hurt me. I could have gone another 12 rounds."

[Julius Rain]

OOh no!!!!!! shane is one of my favorites, but I did have suspecions about his body structure and his skin tecture. its similar to roy jones, theres just that different look when its all natural muscles without juice but then again there is that other look. Just something that doesn't look natural, maybe looks too constricted but moves unnatural and fast for constricted muscles.

[ICB]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=3041449

Just in case no-one believes it,he admits to taking it. I have 2 problems with this:

1.) this statement-"I didn't know anything about that stuff," Mosley said. "It was something given to me, pushed up on me. I'm a health freak-type of guy. I like to have everything organic, natural." That's the biggest contradiction I've seen. How can a self admitted health freak not be aware of what he has taken/forced upon him?

2.) Just because it's Shane Mosley,an admittedly nice guy,people are saying,"oh it doesn't matter etc etc" BS. Imagine,if this was Mayweather or Judah. Both are asses but imagine of they had taken these drugs,"unkowningly". We know for a FACT that people on this forum would be ripping them to shreds.And that's a fact. I'm not one for double standards but nice guy or not,Mosley has gotten away with this too lightly.

I don't know man,he's admitted it himself so NO ONE can edeny he took them. His nice guy image is still genuine but I'm not letting it blind my thinking on the situation. I take back what I said about the timing,it's not as if it's something new,it's been an on going investigation.

Once again Gamo your comments are right on the money. Mosley has admitted he took steroids (supposedly unknowingly) and it should matter to boxing fans because that should change how he looked against Oscar and who knows who else. This brings up many questions: Is Shane not as fast as he has shown in the past? Is Shane really that strong? Does Shane really have great stamina as he has shown in the past?

Since Mosley is not a jerk like Bonds and McGuire, most people will surely forgive him (I still think the guy has class and respect for others). In fact, I hope his fight with Cotto goes on as scheduled. But his confession should change how fans view him as a boxer, not so much as a person (though cheaters are hard to respect in general).

because that should change how he looked against Oscar and who knows who else. This brings up many questions: Is Shane not as fast as he has shown in the past? Is Shane really that strong? Does Shane really have great stamina as he has shown in the past?

Uhh he didn't look that good in the rematch Oscar should of won the rematch he almost doubled Mosley in punch output so if Mosley did take something before the rematch with Oscar it couldn't of been that good could it

Let's not forget that Mosley, from round 9 on was able to outwork Oscar. Though Oscar is known for losing stamina as the fight goes on, Mosely seemed to have another gear. In fact, Mosley said: "I knew I hurt him. He never hurt me. I could have gone another 12 rounds."

Because he threw alot less thats why he had more stamina at the end ??

In fact, Mosley said: "I knew I hurt him. He never hurt me. I could have gone another 12 rounds."


And you actually believe that ??

[Trainer Monkey]

Well when Balco broke,you had to know some prominent boxers would come up,Barry Bonds can only do so much
At least Mosley looks like he could have used
But why in the hell is Toney juicing,but still looks like that?
We keep one of his Showtime posters on our refrigarator to remind us to watch what we eat

[BoomBoom]

I didn't think he won the second ODH fight anyway, but since he just admitted to taking it before the fight shouldn't the decision be reversed?

Good Point. Reguardless of whether he took them intentionally or not, that fight should have been ruled a NC. If I was Oscar I would have pursued that.

[Rican]

Let me amend my statements about Mosley from after pulling out the tape from the closet of Mosley-Oscar II. First, Oscar was breathing out of his mouth profusely from the ninth round on. Shane just looked so much fresher. Oscar threw roughly about the same amount of punches in the second half of the fight than he did in the first. The problem is, Mosley threw more than he did in the second half of the fight than in the first half. And Mosley's shots looked so much harder than Oscar's and his physique was much more impressive. Half of Oscar's punches were jabs and he pretty much averaged 10 punches more per round than Shane. Verdict? Inconclusive, though Shane did look fresher and stronger at 154 than Oscar.

[Kev]

Let me amend my statements about Mosley from after pulling out the tape from the closet of Mosley-Oscar II. First, Oscar was breathing out of his mouth profusely from the ninth round on. Shane just looked so much fresher. Oscar threw roughly about the same amount of punches in the second half of the fight than he did in the first. The problem is, Mosley threw more than he did in the second half of the fight than in the first half. And Mosley's shots looked so much harder than Oscar's and his physique was much more impressive. Half of Oscar's punches were jabs and he pretty much averaged 10 punches more per round than Shane. Verdict? Inconclusive, though Shane did look fresher and stronger at 154 than Oscar.

To be fair though blacks generally have far more impressive physiques than white boxers. I mean Calzaghe, Hatton, De La Hoya and Pavlik are hardly specimans of toned muscularity are they?

I'd go so far as saying that James Toney aside Oscar has always had the least impressive physiquue of any elite fighter of the last 10 years.

He's just a barrel chested, thunderhipped man with no muscle and lots of love handles.

[:::PSL:::]

Cotto would be my 2007 fighter of the year if he pulls this one off (I like Pavlik winning it though). Neither man is going to knock the other out with one punch so its going to come down to who can break the other man down first. I still would like to give the edge to Mosley based on experience, better hand speed and, I think, greater natural athletic ability. Nevertheless Shane is one of those fighters who needs to hit someone right back when he gets hit (and he does get hit) and he likes to more or less stand right in front of his opponent and make them miss with head and body movement. Without question I think this is going to be a easy fight of the year candidate too.

[amat]

Sports Illustrated wouldn't let this get out from the Cotto camp.

Mosley testified before the same federal grand jury as Bonds, Giambi and Marion Jones.

This shouldn't be surprising.