Quote Originally Posted by The Magic Man
That is a thing that truely bewilders and somewhat upsets me

Many people know, and even question whether joe could take on a james toney at 168 prime for prime..

And toney was one of the very very best in the division and at middleweight

And while not many will outright say Joey c beats toney,

Everyone hear either suspects or knows that toney wont have a mark on the legacy that calzaghe probably will

Its a funny old game..


Thats why I said it depends on the version of Toney that shows up....

James Toney is either one of the best fighters to ever step in the ring or one of the biggest disgraces...It all depends on him...The guy lost to fellows way below his caliber.....It is almost like Toney sometimes just does not care....He is a funny guy that Toney is.....

BTW when I speak of James Toney I speak of the REAL James Toney not the Heavyweight impersonator....But the Toney from 160-CW