Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by Mr140
Hey give Kessler sometime he might achieve the level of tony i do not see any one but cal beating him.
No he won't.


Toney has beaten.

Mike McCallum x2
Doug DeWitt
Michael Nunn
Reggie Johnson
Iran Barkley
Prince Charles Williams
Vassiliy Jirov
Evander Holyfield


And has won World titles at.

Middleweight
Supermiddleweight
Cruiserweight

And would of won Heavyweight.

Fighters like Toney don't come around often no way Kessler will achieve anywhere near what Toney has achieved.
Sorry Ice, but at this point I think James Toney has discredited his own dubious legacy with his repeated steroid abuse, and we have only found out about it the times he has been caught. I don't care if he was Muhammad Ali, if he was caught using drugs later in his career where drugs testing has developed, how do we know he didn't use it throughout his career. Someone who has such a liberal attitude towards cheating should certainly not be counted amongst the greats of the sport.

And more, I don't think that the names that you put forward are that much more impressive than Kessler's resume. Doug DeWitt was on a downturn in his career when Toney finished it. Charles Williams was 42. Holyfield was 40, and most of those had taken beatings from other before. Good of you to edit your list as well, to improve accuracy.

I don't like Toney, I admit it, and his constant drug abuse doesn't endear him to me either, but I don't see any reason why Kessler can't win two-weight titles, although I doubt he'd let himself get fat and just fight in cruiserweight and heavyweight divisions. Toney didn't win titles there because he wanted to, he was a fantastic boxer who was too lazy to make the weight.