Slip Bags and an Alternative

[ThomasTabin]

Was it coming forwards towards you like a jab or was it just spinning around?

[Chris Nagel]

Was it coming forwards towards you like a jab or was it just spinning around?

This was my idea before:

Thinking about it again, I realize how awkward it really since the wires/rods in which it is suspended would get in the way of the counter punch.

Drawing from Thomas's idea here's what I was thinking of earlier today. I could build an apparatus similar to this boom stand-


The height and angle is adjustable, and with an arm that its length can be adjusted, it would allow it to simulate different opponents and straight punches.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

then you have a slip stick not slip bag. Nothing will beat a live partner but they're not always there. I think visualisation helps.

[Chris Nagel]

I agree with you Missy, nothing beats having someone in front of you. This is just an alternative training tool that can be used at home. Visualization certainly helps, and a "slip stick" just makes it that much easier to imagine a punch that you can slip.

By the way, does anyone train with a "slip rope"? I found that it seems much more to do with weaving than it is for practicing a simple slip.

[WayneFlint]

I did a similar thing with a dummy i use as a heavy bag sometimes i just used 2 broom sticks a lot of gaffer tape and an old boxing glove, it definently helped me while i was learning the basics on countering, havent used it for ages now though only because ive had a consistent sparring partner for the last year, i think theyre a great idea if you have noone to sparr with or work on slipping and countering with.

[Gonzo13]

Here's some videos of a gentleman that invented a piston type punching machine.
The first video is of the inventor going over some of the details of the machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNkao...eature=channel

Second video is of an experienced boxer giving a demonstration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgV2...eature=channel

Third video, is of the same boxer blocking body punches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKTU...eature=channel

There are more videos, but thought I would just post these few.

[fievel3782]

As someone said, nothing beats a real partner, but the real purpose of the slip bag isn't simply to simulate a punch being thrown, but more of an exercise to move the head constantly. Which by the way if you go a few rounds, you'll feel it in your obliques and back muscles.

[WayneFlint]

it should be your legs doing the majority of the work in slips if your back and obliques are doing the work then i doubt you are in a good position to actually counter off the slip, what works best for me is tennis ball on a rope double jab the tennis ball then slip it on its way back left hook, right, left etc. the best thing ive done to learn to slip is during sparring, i just think of it as loading up a counter punch for a punch i suspect is to be thrown at me, then i find you dont overthink things, because your basically just waiting for the first sign of a tell and loading up and fireing rather than thinking about slipping the punch and countering it as seperate movements and having too much forethought going on while trying to mantain your focus on what your opponents going to try next. its more of a different approach on thought rather than an actual drilling exercise, ive been trying to do this with my boxing movements to speed reaction up by other means rather than by physically trying to get faster (which obveousely i do aswell lol), simplifying things in my mind so i can consentrate more on the opponent rather than the seperate movements involved in trying to both successfuly slip a punch and then land a clean counter shot in return. a thread i think herbm started on ask the trainer got me thinking about thoughts while boxing and id never really given it much thought before, im glad i did now as this helps me counter and react so much easier now.