How would PBF vs RJJ p4p really go down?

**Julius Rain** · 02-08-2008 01:41 AM

THIS IS AN EASY QUESTION. jones has fought two just as great or greater defensive fighter like floyd and he had an easy night against them. floyd has never fought anything like jones, and he has nothing in his advantage to think he could last against jones.

prime vs prime, jones would dominate floyd easy u.d or ktfo.

**JT Rock** · 02-08-2008 02:27 AM

This has been done a zillion times and still is pointless, I dont mean to sound terse, its just that your comparing fighters that are light years away... Its like comparing Pac-Man vs Joe Calzaghe.

Floyd is light years ahead of Roy in technical brilliance

Floyds defense is just as good if not better than Hopkins and Toney not to mention he is 10x faster on his feet than Hopkins or Toney and unorthodox enough to trouble Jones in addition to Footspeed he beats Roy by a country mile as well..

**The Boxer** · 02-08-2008 02:44 AM

i don't find the topic to be pointless at all. In fact i'm glad somebody has finaly done this topic without a bunch people saying roy is just big PBF. Finily someboy seems to understand the question is about skill not about weight. It makes for intersting discussin. Though will most likely never get an answer to the question it's nice to hear peoples arugments.

**Spicoli** · 02-08-2008 02:43 AM

I have absolutly no desire to mount a soapbox for either one but On these grounds ...On What "The Boxer" Is looking for as a comparison.....

Pure fundamentals and over all boxing technique 101 In the purest sense..I think Its Floyd over Jones as far as p4p In a hypothetical match up. Jones was an exceptional and premiere Great but when you get down down to It he was Very unorthadox with tons of Speed,Instinct,Reflex,athletisism,Handspeed Etc. But in all around traditional polished and honed long lasting fundamentals and skill that might beat the other,IMO Its Floyd.

**Taeth** · 02-08-2008 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

THIS IS AN EASY QUESTION. jones has fought two just as great or greater defensive fighter like floyd and he had an easy night against them. floyd has never fought anything like jones, and he has nothing in his advantage to think he could last against jones.

prime vs prime, jones would dominate floyd easy u.d or ktfo.

I think Zab Judah athletically and in terms of timing and speed is more of the problems Roy would give Floyd than any opponent Roy has foughten having similar attributes to MAyweather.

James Toney is a great fighter, but his footspeed was really effected by the weighing 180 pounds during the fight, and James Toney is a great counter puncher not defensive fighter... Michael Nunn hit Toney as easiyl as Roy did its just Nunn couldn't punch and he wasn't as fast as Jones so he got countered more. Floyd fights nothing like Toney, He uses more movement a better jab, he counters more like Roy(In his prime) and now more like HOpkins than like TOney. More importantly FLoyd isn't as fast as RJJ p4p, but he can keep up with him.

I am not even comparing their skill I am saying that Floyd's style which IMO is unothortdox would give Jones fits. If Mayweather's style was orthodox you would see many more guys fighting with it, but only a handful of guys have been able to fight with the shoulder roll at the top level. Another factor is the only punch that can get to Floyd from that stance is the jab, and Roy doesn't usually throw a jab... I think he would feel defensive against Floyd because he wouldn't see any opponings... And against Toney in the first round when Roy tried to land his left hook he wasn't able to, he had to open up to start landing punches, but I think that Floyd would start using his speed which Roy hasn't experienced anything similar to and put Roy on the defensive, after that its two of the quickest, smartest guys we've seen in 20 years doing what they do best... trying to figure eachother out.

As for people who deny Floyd's speed... go watch him when he was at 130-135 and you will remember he was CRAZY fast. He didn't throw combinations but his jab was lightning, and he was so fast he could lean back as a person jabed then come forward overtop with a straight right... I havent' seen anything like it.