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Re: Over-Rated(Sergio Mora)
Right on the money donny.Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Im not a huge fan of manfredo, but after the contender he took some 12 rounders and went for big fights. Calz and Lacy, and he was the runner up to sergio. so when you look at the two side by side, the person who lost the contender did more alot more with it, than the person who is supposed to be THE CONTENDER.
hard to give credit to sergio when the people he "beat" are doing more than him.
Re: Over-Rated(Sergio Mora)
If anyone was stupid enough to believe Mora was anywhere near ready for a title shot then he or she knows nothing about the sport.
He had an 11 and 0 record before coming onto the show.
Today, he still does not have the experience to beat any of the top level fighters. Lacks pop too. He could be a decent and entertaining fighter. Does not have a soft chin either, just lacks experience.
Who ever managed his career after the show, insert Jeff Wald's name here, dropped the ball. Gomez career was handled much better but, they are dropping the ball by trying to feed Gomez to Cotto. Alfonso Gomez is nowhere near ready for Cotto and if and when they meet, Cotto will mop Gomez and we will all say he was not ready and lacked the experience and Gomez was not all that to begin with.
Sergio's mistake was that he did not take the proper steps. If this was Arum, he would have move Mora along nicely like he has done with other prospects. Arum is the man. Uncle Bob rules.
In closing, Mora did not deserve a title shot against Taylor or anyone else for that matter. If you were stupid enough to believe Sergio was going to fight Taylor, then guess what? You were stupid enough to believe it and that makes you stupid. lol
Re: Over-Rated(Sergio Mora)
Manfredo had 15 more fights than Mora coming into the show and Mora beat the noise out of the so called Pride. Manfredo got beat by basicly and damn near an amatuer. Mora is still better than the Pride of Providance. Manfredo was totally out classed by Calzaghe. What made people think Manfredo was anywhere near ready for someone like Calzaghe when Manfredo could not even beat little skinny Sergio Mora? LMAO!
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# 1 it was 8 fights more then Sergio... # 2 if you think in the second fight Manfredo got "the noise beaten out of him" you don't pay very close attention. And # 3 people now a days are getting title shots with 13 or 14 fights not like way back when when guys like Buddy Mcgirt had to fight What, like 40 fights or something before he got a shot?
Not a very well backed post!
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Sorry but when your professional fighter.. And you say you CAN beat JT, whether you believe it or not, if you say it, then get the opportunity to do it, and decline...What are people supposed to think now?
Im not treating sergio mora any different than Andy Lee, or Kahn.
If andy lee got the chance to fight winky wright, and then declined due to location of the fight, i would get on his ass and stewards ass for saying he wanted him.
And if kahn got a fight with hatton i would get on his ass if he chickened out too..
If you open your mouth like your a baddass and then fold when it comes time to prove it, guess what... Your gonna get Sh!t for it. Plain and simple.
Toe'n the line w/ Eric Reagan aint doing it for me.
Fight who you said you wanted to fight. Fight who you said you were ready to fight. And if your not ready..STFU and let others get in on the action.
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Ok, so it was 9 fights more than Mora.# 1 it was 8 fights more then Sergio... # 2 if you think in the second fight Manfredo got "the noise beaten out of him" you don't pay very close attention. And # 3 people now a days are getting title shots with 13 or 14 fights not like way back when when guys like Buddy Mcgirt had to fight What, like 40 fights or something before he got a shot?
Not a very well backed post!
Sergio still beat Peter's @ss twice.
Who the phuk is getting big title fights at 13 or 14 fights of their careers?
You are talking plastic trinkets here like the MAT, WNB or you must be talking about MMA. Who is getting shots at the WBC with 13 fights under them? I think Mora was the only one
Mora is still better than Manfredo Jr. I don't care who Manfredo fights, he still sucks.
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Ok, so it was 9 fights more than Mora.
Sergio still beat Peter's @ss twice.
Who the phuk is getting big title fights at 13 or 14 fights of their careers?
You are talking plastic trinkets here like the MAT, WNB or you must be talking about MMA. Who is getting shots at the WBC with 13 fights under them? I think Mora was the only one
Mora is still better than Manfredo Jr. I don't care who Manfredo fights, he still sucks.
Look at any of the smaller weightclasses. Guys are defending titles with 14 fights under their belt... And your welcome to your oppinion nomatter how saddly backed it may be.
Your correct he won the frst fight and got a gift(hometown) decision on the second.
Did he even have a shot against Calzaghe, no. Did he deserv the fight? no. But Mora talks shit. Talks shit and then backs off like a bully once he got called out. Look, say what you want about Manfredo but remember he went to wales... As I remember it was Mora who was crying like a bitch he didn't want to fight in JTs backyard. At least Manfredo have the set to go over there and give it a shot even though we all knew he was badly outgunned from the getgo.
Go ahead, now and checkout boxrec...
Here are a few guys that fought for or won titles in just a few fights
Nubuo Nashiro (WBA) 9 fights
Silence Mabusa (IBO) 11 fights
Ulisis Solis (WBO) 17 fights
Wladimir Sidorenko (WBA) 15 fights
Vic (IBF) 20 fights
Nonito Donair (IBF) 18 fights
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Nuthin on this, huh?
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You posted midgets. I was talking big boys not chihuahuas. Some of those fighters lost as you can see. Others with 18 and 19 is not the same as 13 and 14. Five fights makes a huge difference that adds to the experience level of a fighter. Sergio with enough experience could grab one of those trinkets. On the other hand I don't care how much experience Manfredo get's, he will always be GARBAGE.Nuthin on this, huh?
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Re: Over-Rated(Sergio Mora)
If you watched the second fight Danny, then you're just being a hater right now.. Manfredo smoked Mora in the second fight, it should've been a UD.Ok, so it was 9 fights more than Mora.
Sergio still beat Peter's @ss twice.
Who the phuk is getting big title fights at 13 or 14 fights of their careers?
You are talking plastic trinkets here like the MAT, WNB or you must be talking about MMA. Who is getting shots at the WBC with 13 fights under them? I think Mora was the only one
Mora is still better than Manfredo Jr. I don't care who Manfredo fights, he still sucks.
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Re: Over-Rated(Sergio Mora)
Guys all over Mora's nuts... Let him think what he wants
Last edited by PRIDE OF BOSTON; 02-08-2008 at 06:35 PM. Reason: cuz I misspelled a word replying to danny g's rediculousness!
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Smoked? You must be smoking
Did he knock Sergio out? No! Did he ever hurt Sergio? No! Unless you count the vicious head butts, there was nothing else there. Peter should have destroyed Mora and he did not or could not. Niether fighter did enough but Manfredo's silly claims that Sergio never hit him are just laughable.
And to claim that should have been a UD is just silly as well. A draw maybe but no way did ManFraudo win every round. Manfredo was running in the later stages of the fight and holding Sergio in the final 15 seconds of the final round. Peter blew it by playing games. He should have been on Sergio from begining to end.
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why should he have "destroyed" him? You call him "Manfraudo" and then say he should've destroyed him.. You need to re-read your posts before you post them.. you're not realizing how much you're hating on Manfredo right now.. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows that Manfredo won that fight, i'm not even going to argue that. Believe me, i'm not defending Manfredo, i'm just telling you how it is.. I'm not losing sleep over the decision.. Mora got beat man, end of story.Smoked? You must be smoking
Did he knock Sergio out? No! Did he ever hurt Sergio? No! Unless you count the vicious head butts, there was nothing else there. Peter should have destroyed Mora and he did not or could not. Niether fighter did enough but Manfredo's silly claims that Sergio never hit him are just laughable.
And to claim that should have been a UD is just silly as well. A draw maybe but no way did ManFraudo win every round. Manfredo was running in the later stages of the fight and holding Sergio in the final 15 seconds of the final round. Peter blew it by playing games. He should have been on Sergio from begining to end.
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First sergio is better than manfredoPeter should have destroyed Mora and he did not or could not. Niether fighter did enough but Manfredo's silly claims that Sergio never hit him are just laughable.
And to claim that should have been a UD is just silly as well. A draw maybe but no way did ManFraudo win every round. Manfredo was running in the later stages of the fight and holding Sergio in the final 15 seconds of the final round. Peter blew it by playing games. He should have been on Sergio from begining to end.
then manfredo should of destroyed sergio?
then you say sergio beat peters ass twice
then you say the second fight could be a draw?
so many flip flops not enough feat
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Re: Over-Rated(Sergio Mora)
Who isn't?Ok, so it was 9 fights more than Mora.
Sergio still beat Peter's @ss twice.
Who the phuk is getting big title fights at 13 or 14 fights of their careers?
You are talking plastic trinkets here like the MAT, WNB or you must be talking about MMA. Who is getting shots at the WBC with 13 fights under them? I think Mora was the only one
Mora is still better than Manfredo Jr. I don't care who Manfredo fights, he still sucks.
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