Amateur Psychics' Thread - My Prediction Came True!!!

[Andre]

Actually I did talk about 'punching' in one of the threads but nobody took it seriously. But to be honest, it's okay they didn't because I've developed a definite position against promoting boxing, and call me hypocrite if you wish 'cause that's what I am - I love watching it and will continue to do so as long as it exists but I will not be involved in anything that will contribute to any brain damage of any of those poor chaps...

Just as a example, let me discuss a little. This is for anyone who's interested... Karatemen can see some flaws in many boxers and boxers probably can see some against karatemen too if they try to box. But as a karateman I can say that most boxers are lousy punchers. It's probably got to do with their training styles. Boxers start training with gloves, punching soft bags while karateman starts with bare fist punching somewhat harder padded board call makiwara. The best way to describe a good punch is by analyzing how good punchers punch. Among the best punchers of this generation is Felix Trinidad. Some of the best today are Ponce de Leon, Darchinian, Marquez brothers, and perhaps also Katsidis, not to mention Pacquiao. What are the major characteristics of a good punch? For the reason I stated above, I'll just give you one. One prerequisite of a good punch is 'stiffness.' Good punches must be stiff - it must come from a well-cocked or stiffened arms right down to the knuckles. You can see most boxers punch with their arms somewhat flabby and sometimes seems to be just dangling from their bodies. Watch how de Leon or Darch punches. They cock their arms regularly before throwing a big punch. When they 'cock' their arms, they are actually trying to tense or stiffen the arm muscles as much as possible before they fire. Karateman regularly practice muscle tensing, not only of their arms but also their full body, thru excercise call kata. Actually, with right training you don't have to cock your arms repeatedly like de Leon or Darch or Katsidis do 'cause you can almost automatically do that at the right moment... So if you want to see a good punch next time, see how stiff the arms are when punching. If it looks stiff like a piece of hard stick, then it must be good. But remember one thing, this just a drop in the bucket, naw, more like a glassful in the bucket so to speak. There are several other prerequisite of a good punch and 'stiffness' is not even the most important one. But of course I will not discuss it any further for the reason stated above. Sorry about that.

No we dont get into that in there, we try to take whole fights apart anylitically < thats wrong spelling?) .
You are a young fella hey?
You should just once while you can ,step into a ring with an above average boxer and see how far our martial arts expertise gets us,
'Its not very far belive me'.
To be honest my kungfu isnt suited to anything other than complete open hand fighting with no rules and we are overpowered in gloves becuase we train for speed and pressure points or the softer lethal targets; your karate is the complete reverse it has more power and becuase of that ,it has many overcomitted actions that boxers can see coming from a mile away and they have the added space left in the guard that it creates.
I think boxers have undiscovered things they could use from both sides of the fence here but there are limits of course.

[pacfan]

No we dont get into that in there, we try to take whole fights apart anylitically < thats wrong spelling?) .
You are a young fella hey?
You should just once while you can ,step into a ring with an above average boxer and see how far our martial arts expertise gets us,
'Its not very far belive me'.
To be honest my kungfu isnt suited to anything other than complete open hand fighting with no rules and we are overpowered in gloves becuase we train for speed and pressure points or the softer lethal targets; your karate is the complete reverse it has more power and becuase of that ,it has many overcomitted actions that boxers can see coming from a mile away and they have the added space left in the guard that it creates.
I think boxers have undiscovered things they could use from both sides of the fence here but there are limits of course.

No argument there. Karatemen will not do well in the boxing ring fighting with boxing rules and gloves, no question about that. But outside the ring in a raw hand-to-hand fight, that's another story. But I have to say that most of the so called martial arts in the western countries are 'fakish' by our standards. If I wear any kind of those mittens they wear on those martial arts fights shown on the tv and hit anyone in the jaw, I can crack it really badly. We train in a very different manner there in Okinawa, the home of karate, where we're routinely brutalized. Our bodies are pounded with heavy sticks during kata exercises and our fists are made really tough hitting hard objects, of course starting gradually from soft to hard. We can take them because the essential part of the routine kata exercises is to stiffen, or tensing of, our whole body - the so-called isometric exercisess - as well as relaxing it, until we learn to control every part of the body at willl. Most people don't know this but when we strike, be it with fists or feet, we put the whole body strenght into it. We even learn few technics that can put anyone to out with just one shot, no kiddin'... By the way, I'm not 'that' young - just pretending to be one.

[brucelee]

No argument there. Karatemen will not do well in the boxing ring fighting with boxing rules and gloves, no question about that. But outside the ring in a raw hand-to-hand fight, that's another story. But I have to say that most of the so called martial arts in the western countries are 'fakish' by our standards. If I wear any kind of those mittens they wear on those martial arts fights shown on the tv and hit anyone in the jaw, I can crack it really badly. We train in a very different manner there in Okinawa, the home of karate, where we're routinely brutalized. Our bodies are pounded with heavy sticks during kata exercises and our fists are made really tough hitting hard objects, of course starting gradually from soft to hard. We can take them because the essential part of the routine kata exercises is to stiffen, or tensing of, our whole body - the so-called isometric exercisess - as well as relaxing it, until we learn to control every part of the body at willl. Most people don't know this but when we strike, be it with fists or feet, we put the whole body strenght into it. We even learn few technics that can put anyone to 'heaven' with just one shot, no kiddin'... By the way, I'm not 'that' young - just pretending to be one.

Nice to know that you're a good karateka. My sensei before would usually praise me for my strength. May be it's because I know your punching technique. hehehe. Even in the way I kick, he would usually make me a model for his other students.

I miss the giving of belts when we were promoted to higher belt rank. We were really tortured and I had to prepare and practice really hard including stiffening my stomach(abs).hehehe.

[pacfan]

Nice to know that you're a good karateka. My sensei before would usually praise me for my strength. May be it's because I know your punching technique. hehehe. Even in the way I kick, he would usually make me a model for his other students.

I miss the giving of belts when we were promoted to higher belt rank. We were really tortured and I had to prepare and practice really hard including stiffening my stomach(abs).hehehe.

Yup, really tough training. Actually, I got sick after over-training and just turned to meditation after that. I did the 'horse-stance' exercise too long and damaged my intestine. You know the horse-stance position exercise or the 'naihanchi' is an essential part of Okinawan karate training because it develops your abdominal, thigh, hip and leg muscles necessarly for sturdy stance and solid kicks. Now I just do shadow boxing everyday in my house to keep fit. Kawawa me.

[brucelee]

Yup, really tough training. Actually, I got sick after over-training and just turned to meditation after that. I did the 'horse-stance' exercise too long and damaged my intestine. You know the horse-stance position exercise or the 'naihanchi' is an essential part of Okinawan karate training because it develops your abdominal, thigh, hip and leg muscles necessarly for sturdy stance and solid kicks. Now I just do shadow boxing everyday in my house to keep fit. Kawawa me.

What a coincidence! I have been into meditation also after my karate days.I'm not into meditation anymore.