Ronald Wilson Reagan=Scumball

[Trainer Monkey]

I don't think I'm arguing any of the points you brought up in your rebuttal. I've said nothing about Reagan's tax breaks, and frankly I don't think he was an exceptional president, however, I do not think he was a "scumball" as you put it, certainly not any more so than the average individual in his position. You want to see some scumballs, look at the overtly racist policies of some of the earlier US Presidents, a bit off topic, I know. I don't find many of Reagans actions early in his political career particularily egregious when compared to the actions of many other world leaders, nearly everyone slits some throats on the way to the top. I agreed earlier that Reagan's policies in S. America were mildly retarded at best. I never said the military iniatives were successful in their stated purposes (Star Wars etc.), only that they put pressure on the USSR's military/economy and contributed to its downfall. I do not support the actions of Reagan in regards to pushing the world closer to nuclear war either. Nor did I debate the debacle that was Afghanistan, Canada (where I live) has troops fighting and dying there now because of the actions of the U.S. in the 80s.
If you examine the relationship between the Shah of Iran and the U.S., they have every right to hate you, without even bringing the unblinking support of Israel into the picture. Imperialism is a bitch.

If you go back and start with the original point,I was pointing out his life story long before he became President
And there wasnt a back he didnt slap,that didnt end up with a knife in it

[El Kabong]

If you go back and start with the original point,I was pointing out his life story long before he became President
And there wasnt a back he didnt slap,that didnt end up with a knife in it

Well at least you're not bitter about it

And you have come so far to support THE CLINTONS...forgiving them of their past transgressions....you are the bigger man attacking a dead guy and then praising and supporting people who give clemancy to terrorists and criminals and then recieve campaign contributions from them....and who supplied Osama Bin Laden weapons and support AFTER we knew what a bad person he was and that he hates America and wanted to attack us

[Trainer Monkey]

Well at least you're not bitter about it

And you have come so far to support THE CLINTONS...forgiving them of their past transgressions....you are the bigger man attacking a dead guy and then praising and supporting people who give clemancy to terrorists and criminals and then recieve campaign contributions from them....and who supplied Osama Bin Laden weapons and support AFTER we knew what a bad person he was and that he hates America and wanted to attack us

Man youve been listening to too much Newsmax
Im not a huge Mr Bill fan,but he did tag all of the conspirators behind the first Trade Center attack
On the flip,the welfare bill he passed was as hard hearted as anything that Reagan shipped out there
I dont turn the guy in to this myth that didnt exist
Unlike the Republican feelings towards Reagan,how many times to you think Romney said "Reagan" during his campaign?
Clinton wasnt the demon that Faux news would have you believe,but he certaintly wasnt FDR either

[El Kabong]

Man youve been listening to too much Newsmax
Im not a huge Mr Bill fan,but he did tag all of the conspirators behind the first Trade Center attack
On the flip,the welfare bill he passed was as hard hearted as anything that Reagan shipped out there
I dont turn the guy in to this myth that didnt exist
Unlike the Republican feelings towards Reagan,how many times to you think Romney said "Reagan" during his campaign?
Clinton wasnt the demon that Faux news would have you believe,but he certaintly wasnt FDR either

All the Republicans were spouting about Reagan and that would be really strange any other year but the fact was they were trying to distance themselves politically from GEORGE W. BUSH which is a wise move and honestly that's why John McCain has done so well IMO.

Bill Clinton was a savvy politician, maybe too savvy at times....he and Hillary are cold calculating and vindictive.


At least he could FAUX relate to the people...."I feel your pain"

[Trainer Monkey]

All the Republicans were spouting about Reagan and that would be really strange any other year but the fact was they were trying to distance themselves politically from GEORGE W. BUSH which is a wise move and honestly that's why John McCain has done so well IMO.

Bill Clinton was a savvy politician, maybe too savvy at times....he and Hillary are cold calculating and vindictive.


At least he could FAUX relate to the people...."I feel your pain"

Of course Bush ran twice compairing himself to Reagan as well
Why is it that nobody compares themselves to Goldwater?
I mean thats a good chunk of what they spew

[El Kabong]

Well to the average voter Goldwater might be a more obscure refrence, but everyone knows about Ronald Reagan.