Apparentlly fight between Cotto vs Mayorga in 19/jul/08

[CutMeMick]

I have issues when fighters like Mayorga are marked and or referenced as "If he was in his prime" (Bowe is another fighter who applies to this)
When was Mayorgas prime? When did it start? When did it finish?
He was in his prime for 1 year and a couple of months? Where he beat Lewis, Vernon 2 times.....

On the other hand you've got a fighter like Cotto whos been fighting World Class opponents since he faced Juuko in his 9th fight OR if people wanna be pushy you can say it was Bazan for his 13th pro fight. Now how do you determine Cottos prime? Has it passed? Is he in it now? Has it not even happened yet?

No doubt Mayorga had a good little run but I think that a fighter like Cotto would be too much for him. Something that NONE of those fighters had that Mayorga faced was 'Body punching' I'm not saying they didn't do it I'm saying none of them were/are know as body punchers. When you have someone like Mayorga who drinks, smokes and partys hard all you gotta do is touch' em up to the body and he's done.

[p4pking]

I have issues when fighters like Mayorga are marked and or referenced as "If he was in his prime" (Bowe is another fighter who applies to this)
When was Mayorgas prime? When did it start? When did it finish?
He was in his prime for 1 year and a couple of months? Where he beat Lewis, Vernon 2 times.....

On the other hand you've got a fighter like Cotto whos been fighting World Class opponents since he faced Juuko in his 9th fight OR if people wanna be pushy you can say it was Bazan for his 13th pro fight. Now how do you determine Cottos prime? Has it passed? Is he in it now? Has it not even happened yet?

No doubt Mayorga had a good little run but I think that a fighter like Cotto would be too much for him. Something that NONE of those fighters had that Mayorga faced was 'Body punching' I'm not saying they didn't do it I'm saying none of them were/are know as body punchers. When you have someone like Mayorga who drinks, smokes and partys hard all you gotta do is touch' em up to the body and he's done.

Well it's not like Mayorga or Bowe didn't have primes... Every fighter is at his best at some point... For some they only really apply themselves in a couple of fights, maybe even just one fight do they really look like a worldbeater. I see what your saying that it's hard to say their prime as in an era, but with fighters like Bowe there's nothing wrong with comparing him to other HW's based on the first Holyfield fight.. Which was really his only great performance. Still, it was enough to prove his worth as a great fighter, he just didn't achieve greatness, the potential was all there. With Mayorga you can really say he was in his prime at 147, as he looked his best in his few fights there. I think he and Cotto would have been one hell of a fight as well, Mayorga could bang like a mofo at welter and obviously take incredible punishment. Cotto may have won but Mayorga would've landed on him, who knows?

[Cortez The Killer]

I have issues when fighters like Mayorga are marked and or referenced as "If he was in his prime" (Bowe is another fighter who applies to this)
When was Mayorgas prime? When did it start? When did it finish?
He was in his prime for 1 year and a couple of months? Where he beat Lewis, Vernon 2 times.....

Yes, i think most would agree that 2002-2003 was Mayorga's prime..

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On the other hand you've got a fighter like Cotto whos been fighting World Class opponents since he faced Juuko in his 9th fight OR if people wanna be pushy you can say it was Bazan for his 13th pro fight. Now how do you determine Cottos prime? Has it passed? Is he in it now? Has it not even happened yet?
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Obviously Cotto has improved leaps and bounds since his 9th (or 13th) pro fights.. why would that be considered his prime? I think the general consensus is Cotto is in his prime right now, or he is A) near it or B) not far removed from it. It is safe to say Mayorga at age 34 and a number of wars and a couple brutal knock outs under his belt is no longer in his prime.

I dont see the argument? Because Mayorga wasn't as technical as a lot of champions he should not be considered to have a point in his career when he was at his best?